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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] U.S. Economics Test
Date:Tuesday, August 14, 2007  22:31:49 (+0000)
From:John G Rawson <johngrawson @.......com>

Two comments:

1. Our Royal Commission pointed out that, if there were only one bank operating, there would be no limit to its lending apart from  possible shortage of willing borrowers. They thus pointed out that reserves concerned only interbank operations, when one outstripped the others in lending, as Bill commented. 

2. They regarded reserve ratios as a "blunt instrument", i.e. ineffective. Whether because of that or for other reasons as well, reserve ratios were dropped and our only means of trying to control the volume of money is per changes in the "Official Cash Rate" (Res. Bank to trading banks) which trigger changes in general interest rates. (I am not suggesting that this method is fully effective either.

Regards.      John R.


From: John Hermann <hermann@picknowl.com.au>
Reply-To: socialcredit@elistas.com
To: socialcredit@elistas.com
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] U.S. Economics Test
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:59:48 +0930

At 11:15 PM 13/08/2007, William Ryan wrote:
 ... Beyond regulatory requirements, a bank needs reserves only to cover deposits lost to other banks, as they are lost.* Banks of course individually gain and lose deposits to other banks, but if a bank has no net loss of deposits as it is granting loans, it has no need for reserves to cover them. 

Conventional banking wisdom (dogma) holds that a depository needs reserves to "cover" deposits by its own customers. And that any newly-created deposits (i.e., arising from new loans advanced by the depository) require additional reserves.

A perfectly coordinated banking system has no need whatsoever for reserves,

Yes it does. The reason being that the real purpose of reserves is not to provide backing for deposits (because deposits already perform all of the functions of money and do not need backing), but rather to provide the central bank with additional means (apart from interest rates) of adjusting the overall volume of bank lending, and also the means to adjust the volume of legal tender - according to society's need for cash at every point in time.

exactly as if it were one large monopoly bank with many branches.  As the banking system becomes increasingly coordinated, the need for reserves is diminishing.

*  Simple withdrawals are similar.  Individual banks do not issue their own banknotes and coins, but must purchase them from the central bank.  If deposits of
banknotes and coins equal withdrawals of banknotes and coins, there is no need for reserves to purchase them.  Regardless of the volume of transactions.

This is a thoroughly confused statement. All coins and notes held by a bank ARE reserves. And as such are entirely interchangeable with creditary deposits in the bank's account with the central bank.

- John Hermann


>> By Mr. McMaster: Q. So they pay three per cent and invite the public to deposit by advertisements just to get a smoke screen?-
>>
>> A. I should say that.
>
> That is not correct. Banks and other depositories invite the public to transfer their deposits from transaction accounts to interest-bearing accounts because the latter
> generally have a reduced reserve requirement (in the U.S. we find that term deposits have zero mandatory reserve requirement). This action effectively frees up reserves, > which may be used by commercial banks in support of additional lending to the public. In regard to this method of acquiring excess reserves, the interest paid to
> depositors is generally a lower cost to a bank than is the cost of borrowing the same quantity of reserves from within the financial system. This explains the incentive
> for banks to offer interest-bearing deposits to the public.  -- John Hermann    





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