| Subject: | Re: [socialcredit] question | | Date: | Sunday, October 7, 2007 20:54:53 (+1300) | | From: | Peter <cymric @.......nz>
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| In reply to: | Message 5041 (written by Joe Thomson) |
Douglas was explaining the conflict between the prestege of character and
the prestege of money power. Both Japan and Britain were the victims of the
latter at the expense of the former.
In the early part of the century, I am not sure if it was pre-world war one
or immediately after that the Bank of England lent such a huge amount of
credit to Japan that it was kept a secret. It would be inevitable that in
the thirties Japan would have been subject to the banks directions and thus
the policy outside their control- doing the opposite to what Douglas would
advise.
This circmstance may have had an influence of Japan's decision to go to war
upon the US ( some neutral policy!) cutting off her oil supplies.
Peter
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Thomson" <thomsonhiyu@shaw.ca>
To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] question
> "....but gave evidence at
> countless official inquiries in Great Britain, Japan,
> Canada, New Zealand and Australia."
>>
> (Bill Ryan:-) Question: What "official inquiries" did Douglas give
> evidence to in Japan and Australia?
>
> (Joe replies:-) I think Rowbotham might have phrased that a bit better.
>
> The "official enquiries" certainly weren't "countless". At least not if
> we're using "official enquiries" in terms of Douglas's presentation of
> evidence under that designation as it applies to the various Committees
> he
> appeared before in Ottawa, Alberta, New Zealand, and the MacMillan one
> we've
> been discussing most recently. There are four, by my count.
>
> In Japan in 1929, following the presentation of his paper at the World
> Engineering Conference Douglas was attending in Tokyo, I believe it
> would
> have been more correct to state that he was interviewed by "officials" of
> that country's Finance Ministry.
>
> And, over the period of a week apparently, must have answered many of
> their "inquiries" as to his ideas.
>
> I think this would most likely have been the nature of any "inquiries" he
> received from "officials" during his visit to Australia also. Doubtless
> there must have been "countless" conversations where various "officials"
> in
> various places made their own "inquiries" regarding his ideas in
> conversation with him over the years.
>
> It is interesting to note that Douglas, despite his evidence before the
> Alberta Agricultural Committee in 1934 where he speaks of the Japanese
> using
> "the reverse" of his ideas, still seems to be quite favourably disposed
> towards the Japanese.
>
> This is also touched on in his more 'political' writings in "The Big
> Idea",
> where he seems to indicate that Japan, a staunch and effective British
> ally
> throughout World War One from start to end, was subjected to a "loss of
> face" when their alliance was terminated after World War One.
>
> We have not discussed what is implied in "the reverse" of his ideas, as
> the
> Japanese applied them during the pre-WWII years. Any comments on that?
>
> Do you suppose "the reverse" of Douglas's ideas on national credit also
> implies the "the reverse" of his philosophy regarding the relationship
> between the State and the individual as regards the Japan of that era?
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <william_b_ryan@yahoo.com>
> To: <socialcredit@elistas.com>
> Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:24 AM
> Subject: [socialcredit] question
>
>
>> The current issue of "The Social Crediter" contains
>> this statement from Michael Rowbotham's book, *The
>> Grip of Death*:
>>
>> "...Douglas was a massive political influence in his
>> day, and a major figure on the world stage. He not
>> only had a world-wide following, but gave evidence at
>> countless official inquiries in Great Britain, Japan,
>> Canada, New Zealand and Australia."
>>
>> Question: What "official inquiries" did Douglas give
>> evidence to in Japan and Australia?
>>
>>
>>
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