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There is some interesting material on the Internet on all
this if you type in "Colonel Repington" in your search bars and go down tthrough
the list of what comes up.
Included are some of the writings and several biograhies
of Repington himself, who was quite exceptional in his foresight on how future
wars would be fought, (and this was pre-World War One. In 1910 he was
already expressing views on the importance of the 'airship' and the 'submarine',
and how both had made the traditional thinking on warfare
obsolete.)
There is also a long biography on Sir William Robertson,
the first British soldier to enlist as a private and make it all the way to
Field-Marshall on 'merit' alone. The behind-the-scenes decisions on how to
prosecute the war most effectively is well covered there. Also some of the early
20th century, pre-war strategic thinking on whether Britain should ally
itself with France or Germany. Being main rival for British export
markets, an alliance with Germany was ruled out in favour of the
former.
Of considerable interest in light of what we've been
discussing generally, there are also some further passages from writings
of Douglas Reed. Who, like Repington earlier, was a correspondent for the
"Times". Interesting stuff on how the 'power of the press' developed and
was being used.
Joe
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:27
AM
Subject: RE: [socialcredit]
question
That makes sense. Records show no increase in troops in
Sinai/Palestine.
The mounteds just went on and liberated Jerusalem; Allenby
walked in to the city (I think) bare headed.
The uncouth colonials (I
think the Aussies too) got shunted over to the Dead
Sea, where they
suffered more casualties from sickness than in most or all of the
campaign.
Regards. John
R.
From: wmcgunn@maxnet.co.nz
To: socialcredit@elistas.com
Date: Fri, 12
Oct 2007 15:10:20 +1300
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] question
Hi John and Peter
While you are both correct in your assessment of the number of troops
deflected from the western front in 1916, I believe that many of these were
actually diverted to Salonika to support the Serbian forces who had fought
their way to that city with a view to being evacuated by the allies. In the
event the allies (illegally) sized the city and created a front line
streaching across the Greek peninsula, and effectively stopped further
Central Power incursions southward. I believe the numbers of allied troops
in the enclave amounted to some 800,000, but I am not sure of the actual
figures of British troops involved. It was refered to jocularily by the
Central Powers as " their biggest POW camp fortunately fed by the
British". With respect to Lloyd George it is well known that he was refered
to as " the man who never told the truth", and his political double dealing
and other shinnanigens are legendary. It could be said that his influence on
internal British politics were directly responsible for the partition of
Ireland and the subsequent three quarters of a century of misrule and
trouble in Northern Ireland. I have not really associated him with the
Palestine question, but can well believe it. The other disaster he can be
directly be held responsible for was the Passendale campaign in 1917. Haig
wanted to stop the battle in July when he realised that he would not get
anywhere without accepting horrendous casualties. Lloyd George sent him a
secret despatch telling him that the attack had to continue because of the
Mutinies in the Frech armies after the disasterous Neville offensive in mid
1917. Haig had to obey his political master who did not allow Haig to stop
the attacks until the winter set in. This campaign led to the vilification
of Haig in later life, and, unfortunately, Haig could not defend himself by
quoting the secret despatch. This was another example of Lloyd George's
duplicity. Lloyd-George was also responsible for several far reaching
reforms in Britain most notably the establishment of Old age pensions and
the foundation of the health service with the formation of "panels" for
general practitioners where they were given a fee for every patient
that they treated. He was an enigma and utterly
ruthless in persuing his own aims.
regards
Bill McG
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:46
PM
Subject: Re: [socialcredit]
question
Thanks John, I will trade your second
expletive as well for a good dose of 'quote'.
"Sir William Robertson corroberates: 'Up to
December 1916' ( when Mr Lloyd George becomes Prime Minister ) 'operations
beyond the Suez Canal had been essentially defensive in principle, the
government and the General Staff alike ....recognising the paramount
importance of the struggle in Europe and the need to give the armies there
the utmost support. This unanimity between ministers soldiers did
not obtain after the premiership changed hands....The fundamental
difference of opinion was particularly obstructive in the case of
Palestine .....The new War Cabinet had been in existence only a few days
when it directed the general Staff to examine the possibility of extending
the operations in Palestine....The General Staff put the requirements at
three additional divisions and these could only be obtained from the
armies on the Western Front....The General Staff said the project would
prove a great source of emparrassment and injure our prospects of
success in France....These conclusions were disappointing to Ministers,
who wished to see Palestine occupied at once, but they could not be
refuted ....In February the War Cabinet again approached the Chief
of the General Staff, asking what progress was being made with the
preparation of a autumn campaign in Palestine".
These passages show how the course of State
and military operations in war may be "deflected" by political pressure
behind the scenes. In this case, the issue of the battle between the
politicians and the soldier affects the lives of nations at the present
time, the 1950's.
Mr Lloyd George then reinforced himself by a
move which once more shows the long thought that must have gone into the
preparation of this enterprise, and the careful slection of
"adminstrators", to support it, that must have gone before. He
proposed that the War Cabinet "take the Dominions into Counsel in a
much larger measure than hitherto in the prosecution of the war".
Put in that way, the idea appealed greatly to the public masses in
England. Fighting-men from Canada, Australia, New Zealand and South
Africa were campaigning shoulder to shoulder with their own sons.
The immediate response of the overseas countries to the "old country's"
danger had touched the native Briton's heart, and he was very happy that
their leaders should join more closely with his own in the "prosecuting
the war".
However, "the diplomat's word" (and his
intention) differed greatly from his deed; Mr Lloyd George's
proposal was merely a "cover" for bringing to London General
Smuts from South Africa, who was regarded by the Zionists as their
most valuable "friend" outside Europe and America, and General Smuts was
brought across to propose the conquest of Palestine! ( pages 252-253)
(pages 258-259)
" He wrote, " We are feeding over a
million men into the sideshow theatres of war and are letting down our
strengths in France at a moment when all the Boche forces from Russia may
be coming against us.....I am unable to get the support from the editor of
The Times that I must have to rouse the country and I do not think I will
be able to go on with him much longer". ( I discovered Colonel
Repington's diaries through my work on this book and then realised that
his experience was identical with mine, just twenty years later, with the
same editor). A month later he wrote, "In a stormy interview I told
Mr Geoffrey Dawson that his subservience to the War Cabinet during this
year was largely the cause of the dangerous position of our army....I
would have nothing more to do with The Times".
This left one man in England who was
able and willing to publish the truth. Mr H.A. Gwynne, of the
Morning Post, printed Colonel Repington's article, which exposed the
weakeing of the French front on the eve of its attack, without submitting
it to the censor. He and Colonel Repington then were prosecuted,
tried and fined ( public opinion was apparently too much on their side for
harsher retribution). Sir William Robertson wrote to Colonel
Repington, "Like yourself, I did what was best in the general interests of
the country and the result has been exactly what I expected....But the
great thing is to keep on a straight course and then one may be sure that
good will eventually come of what may now seem to be evil".
Thus the two wartime years of Mr Lloyd
George's leadership in England were momentous in their efforts on the
present time, and I believe I have shown how he achieved office and what
paramount purpose he pursued through it. After eighteen months he
had overcome all opposition, diverted a mass of men from France to
Palestine, and was ready at last for the great
adventure.
On March 7, 1918 he gave orders
for "a decisive campaign" to conquer all Palestine, and sent General Smuts
there to instruct General Allanby accordingly.
On March 21, 1918 the long-awaited
German attack in France began, embodying all the men, guns and
aircraft released from the Russian front.
The "decisive campaign" in Palestine was
immediately suspended and every man who could be squeezed out of Palestine
was rushed to France. The total number of men emplyed in Palestine
was 1,192,511 up to October 1918 ( General Robertson).
On March 27, 1918 Colonel Repington
wrote, "This is the worst defeat in the histroy of the army". By
June 6 the Germans claimed 175,000 prisoners
and over 2,000 guns."
The Controversy Of Zion by Douglas Reed
Peter
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007
5:21 AM
Subject: RE: [socialcredit]
question
Great stuff, Peter. Can you give references to
ptove these statements? Otherwise they are completely worthless
and appear fanatical.
Regards. John R.
> From: cymric@xtra.co.nz
> To: socialcredit@elistas.com
>
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:32:42 +1300
> Subject: Re:
[socialcredit] question
>
> Douglas has exposed something
far more weightier than an intercepted
> telegram which is
consistent with the deals done over the Palestine
>
campaign.
> " In 1917, as the result of the collapse of Russia
from causes which have
> been indicated elsewhere, Germany was in
sight of victory, Rigid financial
> orthodoxy had strained the
credit of the allies to breaking point. As Sir
> Cecil Spring
Rice has pointed out in his letters, President Wilson was
>
completely dominated by the German-Jewish group of which Kuhn, Loeb, the
> Schiffs and Warburgs were the moving spirits and these had not
only done
> everything possible to achieve destruction of Russia
both internally and
> externally, thus depriving the Allies of
the strategic advantage of a double
> front, but had obstructed
British interests in the United States to an
> extent which in
any other circumstances would have amounted to effective
>
participation in the war on the side of Germany. Lord Reading headed a
> delegation to Washington which resulted in the entry of
America, with the
> co-operation of Kuhn, Loeb, into the war on
the side of the Allies and the
> turning of the scale against
Germany."
> The Big Idea, pages 47-8.
> The shakers and
movers referred to were also big players in the advent of
> the
Federal Reserve six months prior to the war.
> Peter
> -----
Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Thomson"
<thomsonhiyu@shaw.ca>
> To:
<socialcredit@elistas.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10,
2007 1:44 AM
> Subject: Re: [socialcredit] question
>
>
> > Many thanks, Bill (McGonnigle), for the further
information. I
> > incorrectly
> > stated that the
part of the German Pacific Fleet (the "Emden") that went
> >
into the Indian Ocean was commanded by Luckner. That should have been,
as
> > you stated, Captain Muller.
> >
> >
Luckner, the "Sea Devil", commanded a merchant raider not attached to
the
> > German Pacific fleet. I believe it was he who was
captured and interred
> > in
> > NZ, though, and
later escaped.
> >
> > In regards to the "Lusitania",
it was sunk in 1915, and though it stirred
> > up
> >
great animosity in the USA at the time, the war against Germany was
not
> > entered until 1917, after the Kaiser announced he would
use unrestricted
> > submarine warfare in violation of his
committment after the "Lusitania"
> > sinking not to do so.
That and the publication of the "Zimmerman Note",
> >
a
> > diplomatic telegram from Germany's Foreign Minister to
the German
> > Ambassador
> > in Mexico intercepted
and decoded by British Intelligence and passed on to
> > the US
Government was said to have been the deciding factor.
>
>
> > Joe
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "William Hugh McGunnigle"
<wmcgunn@maxnet.co.nz>
> > To:
<socialcredit@elistas.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 09,
2007 12:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: [socialcredit] question
>
>
> >
> >> Amplifying Joe's statement on the
German colonies in the Pacific.
> >> The Asiatic fleet
consisted of the Heavy cruisers Scharhorst and
> >>
Gneisenau, and the Light cruisers Dresden Liepzig, Nurenberg and
Emden.
> > The
> >> Admiral Von Spee commanding
that fleet did not attack Canada for several
> >> reasons.
These were:-
> >> The presence of a powerful Australian
fleet including the Battlecruiser
> >> Australia that would
have been a formidable and highly dangerous
> >>
adversary
> >> even for his fleet.
> >> The
ambivalent attitude of the USA who would not permit coaling of
his
> >> fleet in US ports and bases.
> >> The
high possibility of the Japanese fleet blockading his fleet in
>
>> TingTsao (The German Base in China) to prevent interuption of
Japanese
> > trade
> >> with Australia, NZ, the
Dutch East Indies and the French colonies in
> >> IndoChina,
even if Japan did not directly intervene in the war.
> >>
The problem of coal supplies for his fleet considering that nmost of
> >> the
> >> coaling depots in the Pacific
were controlled by British or American
> >> interests. Only
Samoa (a German colony) offered coaling facilities, and
>
>> it
> >> was certain that this would be attacked and
taken by the avaiable British
> >> and colonial forces at
the earliest opportunity.
> >> These considerations wieghed
heavily on the mind of Admiral Von Spee,
> > and
>
>> he decided to head south via Samoa to go around Cape Horn, and
break
> > through
> >> the Atlantic Blockade using
coal supplies shipped to him by the various
> >> German
embassies in the Neutral countries of South America. He came to
>
> grief
> >> when he decided to attack the radio station
on the Faukland Islands
> > unaware
> >> that Vice
Admiral Sturdee with his squadron consisting of the battle
>
>> cruisers Invincible and Inflexible together with 4 light
cruises, a
> >> county
> >> class heavy cruiser
and the old battleship Canopus, were in harbour. The
> >
end
> >> result of this confronmtation is well known to any
naval historian.
> >> The Only ship that did not follow this
route was the Emden under the
> >> command of Captain
Muller. His commerce raiding expedition in the Indian
> >>
Ocean was a classic. He obtained his coal from the ships he captured
and
> >> then sank. His mistake was to attempt to destroy
the radio station on
> > Cocos
> >> Island. This
station was able to send a distress call picked up by the
>
>> protected cruiser HMAS Sydney. The arrival of the Sydney ended
the Emdens
> >> raiding because this Australian cruiser
outgunned the Emden and was able
> > to
> >> smash
the German raider with little damage to herself. The Emden was
>
>> scuttled on a reef, and her crew interned for the rest of the
war.
> >> regards
> >> Bill McGunnigle
>
>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Joe
Thomson" <thomsonhiyu@shaw.ca>
> >> To:
<socialcredit@elistas.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, October
08, 2007 8:18 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [socialcredit]
question
> >>
> >>
> >> > (Peter
wrote:-) "....the Bank of England lent such a huge amount of
>
>> > credit to Japan that it was kept a secret."
>
>> >
> >> > (Joe replies:-) I don't know about
the Bank of England's secret
> >> > lending
>
>> > to
> >> > Japan, Peter, but it's plausible.
Japan must have needed considerable
> >> > international
credit to go in the short time that it did from feudal
> >
state
> >> > to a modern, industrialised country complete
with a modern,
> > well-equipped
> >> >
military, I would think.
> >> >
> >> >
There's no question pre-WW I Japan was quite useful to Britain to
have
> > as
> >> > an
> >> >
ally. The Japanese directly checked Russian military expansionism
in
> > the
> >> > Far East and northern China by
being the victors in the Russo-Japanese
> > War
>
>> > in 1905. (With considerable covert British assistance.)
Indirectly,
> > the
> >> > weakening of Russia
would have removed a threat from that direction
> >> >
towards
> >> > British interests in India and Persia
(Iran).
> >> >
> >> > After the outbreak
of war in Europe in 1914 the Japanese were able to
> >> >
wrest control over the 'sphere of influence' that Germany had
>
> established
> >> > in
> >> > China.
The Germans had a substantial millitary prescence there,
> >
including
> >> > a
> >> > powerful fleet
of modern warships. Evidence of the importance the
> >
Kaiser
> >> > attached to what he reportedly stated to be
Germany's most important
> >> > overseas possession.
(Quite likely not so much for what 'goods' China
> >> >
could
> >> > provide Germany, but as a substantial
peace-time 'captive' outlet for
> >> > German
manufactured goods.)
> >> >
> >> > This
German Pacific Fleet based in China was considered to be a prime
>
>> > menace
> >> > to British Columbia, since
the British Empire's main ship-repair
> >> >
facilities
> >> > in the entire Pacific were then located
at Esquimalt, outside Victoria,
> >> > B.C.
>
>> > Destruction of the large graving dock there, ( one of the
few in the
> > world
> >> > that could
accomodate a ship the size of the original Queen Elizabeth
>
>> > ~
> >> > and
> >> > did,
during WW II), would have been quite a military accomplishment.
>
>> >
> >> > At the outbreak of war in 1914, the
Royal Canadian Navy had but one
> >> > obsolete cruiser
to defend this facility, and the entire BC coast.
> >> >
Fortunately, for us, the Japanese Imperial Navy quickly sent
modern
> > ships
> >> > to
> >> >
take up station and defend against what was feared would be an
imminent
> >> > attack. (Prior to that, to bolster the
shamefully inadequate defences,
> >> > the
>
>> > BC Government secretly purchased two submarines made for
the Chilean
> > Navy
> >> > from their US
builders. An act completely 'ultra vires' of its
> >> >
Constitutional powers. 'Constitutions', it would seem, CAN be
>
>> > circumvented
> >> > when circumstances
warrant it, and there's a clear indication of public
> >>
> support. )
> >> >
> >> > As it turned
out, the anticipated attack never came. The German
> >>
> Pacific
> >> > fleet divided, with one small group
going into the Indian Ocean, where
> > it
> >> >
wreaked havoc on Allied shipping for quite some time. I believe some
of
> >> > those German sailors were later captured, and
interned as POWs in New
> >> > Zealand. Before escaping,
I believe, and somehow making it back to
> >> >
Germany.
> >> >
> >> > The main German
force made for home via Cape Horn. Along the way
> >> >
annihilating a Royal Navy task force that intercepted it off the
coast
> > of
> >> > Chile. The Royal Navy later
turned the tables off the Falklands, and
> >> > removed
that menace entirely.
> >> >
> >> > I
believe the Japanese also sent destroyers to patrol in the
>
>> > Mediterranean,
> >> > where the Austro-
Hungarian Empire's Navy posed a enemy submarine
> >
threat
> >> > for some time.
> >>
>
> >> > After the war, Hirohito was an honoured guest
of King George V at the
> >> > Royal
> >>
> Family's Balmoral estate, an indication of British appreciation for
his
> >> > country's war effort, and that Japan had
achieved a unique status as an
> >> > non-white world
power. It must have been somewhat of a slap in the
> >>
> face
> >> > when their alliance was not renewed by
Britain a short time later.
> >> >
> >> >
I think it's quite within the realm of possibility, as Douglas
>
>> > indicated
> >> > in
> >> >
"The Big Idea", that the influence of 'International' Finance
over
> >> > post-war British policy had a hand in
that.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Peter"
<cymric@xtra.co.nz>
> >> > To:
<socialcredit@elistas.com>
> >> > Sent: Sunday,
October 07, 2007 3:54 AM
> >> > Subject: Re:
[socialcredit] question
> >> >
> >>
>
> >> >> Douglas was explaining the conflict
between the prestege of character
> > and
> >>
>> the prestege of money power. Both Japan and Britain were the
victims
> > of
> >> > the
> >>
>> latter at the expense of the former.
> >> >>
In the early part of the century, I am not sure if it was pre-world
> >> >> war
> >> > one
>
>> >> or immediately after that the Bank of England lent
such a huge amount
> > of
> >> >> credit to
Japan that it was kept a secret. It would be inevitable
>
>> >> that
> >> >> in
> >>
>> the thirties Japan would have been subject to the banks
directions and
> >> > thus
> >> >> the
policy outside their control- doing the opposite to what Douglas
>
>> >> would
> >> >> advise.
>
>> >> This circmstance may have had an influence of Japan's
decision to go
> >> >> to
> >> >
war
> >> >> upon the US ( some neutral policy!)
cutting off her oil supplies.
> >> >> Peter
>
>> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message
-----
> >> >> From: "Joe Thomson"
<thomsonhiyu@shaw.ca>
> >> >> To:
<socialcredit@elistas.com>
> >> >> Sent: Sunday,
October 07, 2007 12:23 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re:
[socialcredit] question
> >> >>
> >>
>>
> >> >> > "....but gave evidence
at
> >> >> > countless official inquiries in Great
Britain, Japan,
> >> >> > Canada, New Zealand and
Australia."
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> (Bill Ryan:-) Question: What "official inquiries" did Douglas
give
> >> >> > evidence to in Japan and
Australia?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
(Joe replies:-) I think Rowbotham might have phrased that a bit
>
> better.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> The "official enquiries" certainly weren't "countless". At least
> >> >> > not
> >> >> >
if
> >> >> > we're using "official enquiries" in
terms of Douglas's presentation
> > of
> >>
>> > evidence under that designation as it applies to the
various
> >> > Committees
> >> >> >
he
> >> >> > appeared before in Ottawa, Alberta,
New Zealand, and the MacMillan
> > one
> >>
>> > we've
> >> >> > been discussing most
recently. There are four, by my count.
> >> >>
>
> >> >> > In Japan in 1929, following the
presentation of his paper at the
> > World
> >>
>> > Engineering Conference Douglas was attending in Tokyo, I
believe
> >> >> > it
> >> >>
> would
> >> >> > have been more correct to
state that he was interviewed by
> > "officials"
>
>> > of
> >> >> > that country's Finance
Ministry.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
And, over the period of a week apparently, must have answered
many
> > of
> >> >> > their "inquiries" as
to his ideas.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> I think this would most likely have been the nature of any
>
> "inquiries"
> >> > he
> >> >> >
received from "officials" during his visit to Australia also.
>
>> >> > Doubtless
> >> >> > there
must have been "countless" conversations where various
> >>
>> > "officials"
> >> >> > in
>
>> >> > various places made their own "inquiries"
regarding his ideas in
> >> >> > conversation with
him over the years.
> >> >> >
> >>
>> > It is interesting to note that Douglas, despite his
evidence before
> > the
> >> >> > Alberta
Agricultural Committee in 1934 where he speaks of the
> >
Japanese
> >> >> > using
> >> >>
> "the reverse" of his ideas, still seems to be quite
favourably
> > disposed
> >> >> > towards
the Japanese.
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> This is also touched on in his more 'political' writings in "The
Big
> >> >> > Idea",
> >> >> >
where he seems to indicate that Japan, a staunch and effective
>
> British
> >> >> > ally
> >>
>> > throughout World War One from start to end, was subjected
to a "loss
> > of
> >> >> > face" when
their alliance was terminated after World War One.
> >>
>> >
> >> >> > We have not discussed what
is implied in "the reverse" of his ideas,
> > as
>
>> >> > the
> >> >> > Japanese
applied them during the pre-WWII years. Any comments on
> >
that?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Do
you suppose "the reverse" of Douglas's ideas on national credit
>
> also
> >> >> > implies the "the reverse" of
his philosophy regarding the
> > relationship
> >>
>> > between the State and the individual as regards the Japan
of that
> >> >> > era?
> >> >>
>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -----
Original Message -----
> >> >> > From:
<william_b_ryan@yahoo.com>
> >> >> > To:
<socialcredit@elistas.com>
> >> >> > Sent:
Saturday, October 06, 2007 10:24 AM
> >> >> >
Subject: [socialcredit] question
> >> >> >
>
>> >> >
> >> >> >> The current
issue of "The Social Crediter" contains
> >> >>
>> this statement from Michael Rowbotham's book, *The
>
>> >> >> Grip of Death*:
> >> >>
>>
> >> >> >> "...Douglas was a massive
political influence in his
> >> >> >> day, and a
major figure on the world stage. He not
> >> >>
>> only had a world-wide following, but gave evidence at
>
>> >> >> countless official inquiries in Great
Britain, Japan,
> >> >> >> Canada, New Zealand
and Australia."
> >> >> >>
> >>
>> >> Question: What "official inquiries" did Douglas
give
> >> >> >> evidence to in Japan and
Australia?
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
>>
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
>
> >> >
> >
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