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Interesting summary, John. I think, though, you
might be making the same mistake we all seem to make when looking into to the
future. We tend to mix the conceptions we have of things now with the
things that would change under Social Credit. This is doubly
complicated because Social Credit, while quite revolutionary, will likely have
to be introduced gradually. Despite the predictions of the current
financial system's imminent collapse, and the "hope springs eternal"
crowd's hope for one.
If you look back at every successive 'credit
crunch' since the end of World War II, each was touted as the beginnings
of the financial meltdown that would usher in a new Great Depression worse
than the one of the '30's ~ but it hasn't happened. Yet.
And even if such an event did come to pass, it's highly
unlikely that there'd be an instant embrace of Social Credit as THE solution out
of it. There seems to be a very crowded and diverse 'solutions' market out
there, and while we're definitely still in it, we are by no means in any
preferred position over our competitors.
When you write, near the end of your summary, the
points you number 1, 2, and 3, you are looking at Social Credit from an
'orthodox' view, I think. And superimposing Social Credit on top of
it. That's not a criticism, really, for we're all guilty of doing that to
a degree. I may be making the same mistake myself in writing some of what
follows. Certainly there will be those who'll likely say so. But here's
how I see it, currently, anyways.
If the CONSUMER is properly credited through the
CPD's lower prices and the National dividend with the calculated excess of
total capital appreciation over total capital depreciation on an ONGOING BASIS,
where is the problem in taxing? Which, in any democracy, the
Government still has to come "to the people" for. And "the
people" can still organize, protest and resist the payment of,
no?
Just because, in many places, we
"don't", doesn't mean to say that for ever and always we "won't". It
took a lot to get the Barons of old steamed up enough to impose the Magna Carta,
and the American colonists to stage their own 'tax' revolt, and even the
Californians to enact "proposition 13". But for better or worse, the power
remains with "the people". And that's how it should be, shouldn't
it?
Same with the business of the Government's
borrowing. The 'borrowing', if it's for good reason, would be reflected in
a further appreciation of capital on the National Balance Sheet, would it
not? And WHO would then be credited with this 'capital
appreciation'? Resulting in? Potentially a greater National
dividend and/or a larger Compensated Price Discount. No?
And the same with your number 3. There is NO
shedding of responsibilities. As now. There is NO necessity,
"FINANCIALLY", for the hospital cleaning contractors to beat the crew's wages
down to get their own profit up. They may find they have to pay MORE to
the crew to even get the job done, but it will be done, and done
properly.
There's more, but I'm out of time.
Later.
Regards,
Joe
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Subject: [socialcredit] Summarising
I believe it is time to summarise key points that have emerged
over the course of long discussions: A+B ANALYSIS. In terms of Douglas
analysis of individual businesses, this must be taken as factual.
Were it not, someone would have shown the data to be fallacious long
ago. When it is applied to the whole economy, because other factors may
come it, the model becomes theoretical. But many points of evidence suggest it
is more correct than the orthodox theory, none the least being the fact
that banking systems in modern times have increased money
supplies comparatively astronomically without causing the equivalent
disastrous inflation that orthodox theory would predict. It has only
occurred at a lesser level. EFFECTS. Douglas predictions that the
tendency towards a deficiency of purchasing power would cause periodic
financial collapse, struggle for markets and even war appear to have been
justified. REMEDIES PROPOSED. 1. A system of national accounting for
each country, to determine how much new money would be required over a
following period carried out by a government agency, (note small "g"), a
national credit authority, independent of political institutions, which
would also create the necessary credits and distribute them as: a.
Subsidies (if this word grates, please provide an equivalent within present
accepted lantguage) to reduce the cost of all comsumer goods (?and services),
local or imported, at retail point, without any price control mechanism,
and, b. A national dividend, its value obviously dependent on the state of
the economy as per the national balance sheet, to be paid equally to every
adult citizen. Presumably the authority would decide the proportion
to go each way. It is accepted that no retailer will raise prices to higher
levels, despite the fact that they would continue to be subsidised at any
level. (Because we say so, presumably.) It is also accepted (I believe
reasonably) that sufficient people will desire to better themselves by working
to produce goods etc., or will simply work for the good of the community
because they enjoy so doing. No new credits will be issued to central or
local government agencies, which will continue to rely on present methods of
finance: 1. Taxing, i.e. taking back from the people money distributed as
above, and/or, 2. Borrowing, (leaving the lending institutions able to
dictate at least some aspects of policies), and/or, 3. Shedding their
responsibilities to private enterprise so that a "user pays" system operates.
With divisions of standards of education and health services betwen rich and
poor, and situations such as already exist in Britain and this country (NZ)
where patients risk infection (and death) because hospital cleaners now exist
to show a profit rather than to clean hospitals. If I have erred in facts
quoted, please correct me. Undoubtedly the inferences based on them will
occasion debate, but please, lets iron out any factual detail
first. Regards. John R.
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