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Subject:RE: [socialcredit] Gordon Brown at WEF on Reform by Eric V. Encina
Date:Monday, February 4, 2008  21:18:01 (+0000)
From:John G Rawson <johngrawson @.......com>
In reply to:Message 5233 (written by William Hugh McGunnigle)

Good comments, W. McG, but I suggest there are other dangers that could be more far-reaching even than warfare. Present financial moves suggest that those behind the scenes will try to avoid a major slump by methods other than that.
Our own NZ experience shows that pseudo-socialist Labour leaders and finance ministers, because of their own lack of understanding, tend to be completely dependent on their departmental financial advisers.
Such "reforms" as are mooted are more likely to continue the trend towards total world dictatorship through a single currency controlled and created by a single non-elected bureaucracy. Which would, of course, be very stable indeed!
Regards.    
John R.



From: wmcgunn@maxnet.co.nz
To: socialcredit@elistas.com
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:52:34 +1300
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Gordon Brown at WEF on Reform by Eric V. Encina

In reply to Eric Encina
 
     The problem with Gordon Brown is that he is a member of a political elite in the UK, namely the British parliament, that is wedded to the present system right or wrong. Indeed it is the Bank of England (a private organisation) that has been responsible for setting up the present system. Threadneedle street and Wall street between them control the movement of 98% of all the world's finance. With the best will in the world I cannot see even such an influencial person as the British Prime minister being able to do much to alter the system. His Labour Party, the Conservative opposition Party or the Liberal Democrat party are all financed from that system they are not going to "Rock-the-boat". Having said that however it is heartening to see a prominant Western politician actually suggesting that some form of monetary reform of revision is necessary for the future well being of our planet.
    I perceive a problem when types of reform are mooted because the present controllers of International finance will be very unwilling to relinquish that control even if it is to the total detriment of the planet. Even though they know Gordon Brown is correct they are not going to abolish their stranglehold on world financial distribution without a bitter fight.
    The worst senario would be that these controllers would forment International conflict up to and including a world war to stimulate the world's economy before they would agree to a peaceful solution to our economic woes.
    I don't want to be unduly pessimistic but I believe things will need to get a whole lot worse before their hand can be forced. The Keys to the situation lie in the developing economies of China and India who, when combined, could singlehandedly out produce the rest of the world put together. It would be at a horrific environmental cost.
 Bill McGunnigle
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Subject: [socialcredit] Gordon Brown at WEF on Reform by Eric V. Encina

                      GORDON BROWN AT WEF ON REFORM


                                  by Eric V. Encina


At the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland this January 2008, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has suggested for the revamping of international institutions, saying that those systems and policies created decades ago are no longer up to dealing with today's challenges.

He said that politicians alone could not meet UN goals set in 2000 to solve the world's most pressing problems, and so government should join efforts with the private sectors, non-governmental organizations, faith groups and others.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown was the featured guest at the World Economic Forum in Switzerland at its annual meeting. He addressed some major concerns about the present world economy as one of the main focuses at the annual gathering of world political and economic leaders against the backdrop of a US downturn that threatens to mutate if not addressed well into a world recession.

Gordon Brown is seemed to be a kind of Western-based leader who is attuned to economic and political reform. And hopefully MONETARY REFORM! He warned against over-acting, such as resorting to "heavy-handed regulation," despite of a  "testing time for the global economy", while also rejecting the other side of the coin - "being gripped by or paralyzed into inaction."

REFORM:

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "We are in a period that if we don't reform our global institution (they) become irrelevant," making a case for the creation of a "rapid response agency" that dispatches not only peace-keepers  to trouble spots, but police, lawyers and other experts needed to rebuild society in "failed states".  I HOPE  THE REFORM HE IS TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE FOR THE BETTER AND THE EMANCIPATION OF THE POOR INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH FROM THE EXPLOITATIVE SYSTEM.

He said that "THE IMF AND THE WB AND THE UNITED NATIONS WERE BUILT FOR PROBLEMS IN THE 1950'S. HE IS CALLING FOR REFORMS TO MEET THE NEW CHALLENGES OF GLOBALIZATIONS, CLIMATE CHANGE AND RE-ESTABLISHING ORDER IN "CONFLICT-RIDDEN STATES."

Another very good specific suggestion of Prime Minister Brown is the TRANSFORMATION OF THE WORLD BANK OR WB into 'THE WORLD BANK FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND DEVELOPMENT' - an institution that would stand ready to underwrite funds for developing countries looking to turn from carbon-based fuels to alternative energies.

He also called  for revamping the UN that peacekeeping must be linked to stabilization , reconstruction and development to avoid perpetuating failed-state status in developing countries driven by war and other crises.

He said that "You cannot have a situation where you have failed states and it takes years and years for the world community to do anything."

Brown spoke bleaky of lack of progress in meeting a 15-year global development plan, set in 2000 by global leaders to alleviate world poverty, diseases and hunger then known as MILLENNIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS.

I laud Prime Minister Brown for being a reform-minded UK official which I hope he would consider in the future to speak the same tone of conviction to REFORM the financial-economic system from debt-based money creation to debt-free money creation scheme in the UK and in the world to remedy such world problems.


What do you think?



Eric V. Encina
Filipino Social Crediter/ Monetary Reformer
Homesite, Lawa-an, PO Box 8,
5800 Roxas City, Capiz,
Philippines
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