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Subject:[socialcredit] Back up Gordon Brown for such reforms
Date:Monday, February 4, 2008  22:38:28 (-0800)
From:Eric Encina <ericencina @.....com>

Hi there!
 
I suggest that what we need is to back up and thus encourage Gordon Brown for such reforms to materialise.
 
More peoples  to supporting Gordon Brown's statements at WEF would be the better for ramifications. We can use his own words for such reforms.
 
I have my own fear but I hope Gordon Brown would not retract for such open statements for such reforms of the international financial system targetting the WB.
 
We have to be solution-minded with persistence to convince Prime Minister Gordon Brown to on for such reforms. Let us strike whilst the iron is hot. And for this reasons,  I also  therefore invite others, anyone of you  to send an email to Prime Minister Gordon Brown about the matters. Let us try and try to test the water. If Gordon Brown is sincere enough, then he would help monetary reformers and Social Crediters to authentically reform the money system before he could realistically suggest TO REFORM THE WORLD BANK. Reform first the money system before we can reform the WB and the IMF.
 
Annual World Economic Forum alone could not effect for authentic change, but this is the work of whole humanity to reform the financial system, i.e. the voice of humanity that matters, not just the opinions of the world leaders.
 
The statement of Gordon Brown whether or not it was just a kind of personal opinion or from his personal conviction or possibly a remose of conscience, could be a key to be repeatedly addressed to world political and economic or monetary leaders. I also believe that world leaders are aware that there is something structurally flawed in the financial-economic system. In the case of Gordon Brown, he might have felt some remorse of that the system of economic and finance we are in. He is concerned to humanity, to poor nations and inhabitants and to climate change and he is aware that humanity at large is entrapped by the wrong system and operations. He would like to adjust the system that is to be attuned to the problems of today.
 
And I think the reform of the money system must begin in reality in the UK, then to be followed by USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, European Union countries, third world nations and the rest of the world.
 
As for me, I am inclined to continue to keep the words of Gordon Brown whether he would retract or not in the future. His statements in front of world leaders remained strong to ripple for change, per se, world monetary reform.
 
Thanks.
 
 
Eric V. Encina
Roxas City, Capiz,
Philippines


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Subject:RE: [socialcredit] Gordon Brown at WEF on Reform by Eric V. Encina
Date:Monday, February 4, 2008  18:21:00 (-0800)
From:Eric Encina <ericencina @.....com>
In reply to:Message 5234 (written by John G Rawson)



John G Rawson <johngrawson@hotmail.com> wrote:

Good comments, W. McG, but I suggest there are other dangers that could be more far-reaching even than warfare. Present financial moves suggest that those behind the scenes will try to avoid a major slump by methods other than that.
Our own NZ experience shows that pseudo-socialist Labour leaders and finance ministers, because of their own lack of understanding, tend to be completely dependent on their departmental financial advisers.
Such "reforms" as are mooted are more likely to continue the trend towards total world dictatorship through a single currency controlled and created by a single non-elected bureaucracy. Which would, of course, be very stable indeed!
Regards.    
John R.



From: wmcgunn@maxnet.co.nz
To: socialcredit@elistas.com
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:52:34 +1300
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Gordon Brown at WEF on Reform by Eric V. Encina

In reply to Eric Encina
 
     The problem with Gordon Brown is that he is a member of a political elite in the UK, namely the British parliament, that is wedded to the present system right or wrong. Indeed it is the Bank of England (a private organisation) that has been responsible for setting up the present system. Threadneedle street and Wall street between them control the movement of 98% of all the world's finance. With the best will in the world I cannot see even such an influencial person as the British Prime minister being able to do much to alter the system. His Labour Party, the Conservative opposition Party or the Liberal Democrat party are all financed from that system they are not going to "Rock-the-boat". Having said that however it is heartening to see a prominant Western politician actually suggesting that some form of monetary reform of revision is necessary for the future well being of our planet.
    I perceive a problem when types of reform are mooted because the present controllers of International finance will be very unwilling to relinquish that control even if it is to the total detriment of the planet. Even though they know Gordon Brown is correct they are not going to abolish their stranglehold on world financial distribution without a bitter fight.
    The worst senario would be that these controllers would forment International conflict up to and including a world war to stimulate the world's economy before they would agree to a peaceful solution to our economic woes.
    I don't want to be unduly pessimistic but I believe things will need to get a whole lot worse before their hand can be forced. The Keys to the situation lie in the developing economies of China and India who, when combined, could singlehandedly out produce the rest of the world put together. It would be at a horrific environmental cost.
 Bill McGunnigle
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Subject: [socialcredit] Gordon Brown at WEF on Reform by Eric V. Encina

                      GORDON BROWN AT WEF ON REFORM


                                  by Eric V. Encina


At the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland this January 2008, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has suggested for the revamping of international institutions, saying that those systems and policies created decades ago are no longer up to dealing with today's challenges.

He said that politicians alone could not meet UN goals set in 2000 to solve the world's most pressing problems, and so government should join efforts with the private sectors, non-governmental organizations, faith groups and others.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown was the featured guest at the World Economic Forum in Switzerland at its annual meeting. He addressed some major concerns about the present world economy as one of the main focuses at the annual gathering of world political and economic leaders against the backdrop of a US downturn that threatens to mutate if not addressed well into a world recession.

Gordon Brown is seemed to be a kind of Western-based leader who is attuned to economic and political reform. And hopefully MONETARY REFORM! He warned against over-acting, such as resorting to "heavy-handed regulation," despite of a  "testing time for the global economy", while also rejecting the other side of the coin - "being gripped by or paralyzed into inaction."

REFORM:

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "We are in a period that if we don't reform our global institution (they) become irrelevant," making a case for the creation of a "rapid response agency" that dispatches not only peace-keepers  to trouble spots, but police, lawyers and other experts needed to rebuild society in "failed states".  I HOPE  THE REFORM HE IS TALKING ABOUT WOULD BE FOR THE BETTER AND THE EMANCIPATION OF THE POOR INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH FROM THE EXPLOITATIVE SYSTEM.

He said that "THE IMF AND THE WB AND THE UNITED NATIONS WERE BUILT FOR PROBLEMS IN THE 1950'S. HE IS CALLING FOR REFORMS TO MEET THE NEW CHALLENGES OF GLOBALIZATIONS, CLIMATE CHANGE AND RE-ESTABLISHING ORDER IN "CONFLICT-RIDDEN STATES."

Another very good specific suggestion of Prime Minister Brown is the TRANSFORMATION OF THE WORLD BANK OR WB into 'THE WORLD BANK FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND DEVELOPMENT' - an institution that would stand ready to underwrite funds for developing countries looking to turn from carbon-based fuels to alternative energies.

He also called  for revamping the UN that peacekeeping must be linked to stabilization , reconstruction and development to avoid perpetuating failed-state status in developing countries driven by war and other crises.

He said that "You cannot have a situation where you have failed states and it takes years and years for the world community to do anything."

Brown spoke bleaky of lack of progress in meeting a 15-year global development plan, set in 2000 by global leaders to alleviate world poverty, diseases and hunger then known as MILLENNIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS.

I laud Prime Minister Brown for being a reform-minded UK official which I hope he would consider in the future to speak the same tone of conviction to REFORM the financial-economic system from debt-based money creation to debt-free money creation scheme in the UK and in the world to remedy such world problems.


What do you think?



Eric V. Encina
Filipino Social Crediter/ Monetary Reformer
Homesite, Lawa-an, PO Box 8,
5800 Roxas City, Capiz,
Philippines
ericencina@yahoo.com

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Hello,
 
Well, let us see further what would transpire in due course the reform Gordon Brown has in mind. I also suspect that that reform he has in mind is something like economically vague,  and might not really related to monetary reform. However, we try to give him the benefits of the doubt. It is also  important to find out what REFORMS or what kind of reforms  Prime Minister Gordon Brown is specifically referring to?
 
 I sent an email to Prime Minister Gordon Brown yesterday but remained unanswered as of today.
 
I take note and appreciate all your messages of caution seemed to suggest to me not to be too gullible of what this influential person is talking about on such  reforms. I hope this could be positive in sight to support the reform of the financial system. Reform of the money system could be either through national individual state or a global monetary reform. However, global monetary reform is seemed to be beyond the Social Credit Monetary Reform policy. C.D. Douglas did not write anything about global monetary reform, however, I do believe monetary reform policy could be adjusted and modified to circumstances without having to compromise the philosophy of Social Credit.
 
I am waiting Prime Minister's  reply.
 
 
Thanks.
 
 
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