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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Back up Gordon Brown for such reforms
Date:Tuesday, February 5, 2008  23:12:26 (-0800)
From:Eric Encina <ericencina @.....com>
In reply to:Message 5239 (written by William Hugh McGunnigle)

William Hugh McGunnigle <wmcgunn@maxnet.co.nz> wrote:

Hi Eric
         While I broadly agree with your sentiments with respect to Gordon Brown's comments about monetary reform, it is significant that the British Labour Party (Gordon Brown's governing party in the British Parliament) have only begun to take this matter seriously with the arrival of a specific Monetary Reform party (from 2005) on the British political scene. Their policies appear to be based on the work of Major Douglas and so could be classified as a Social Credit Reform Party. This is the first time that a monetary reform party has been actually formed in the UK with the specific purpose of contesting the political scene.
    It is highly possible that Mr Brown's comments are a knee-jerk reaction to prevent possible defection of support for his own Labour Party to this new party on the UK electoral scene.
   Needless to say your comments that we should endorse any comments by any prominent world political leader on monetary reform are both pertinent and essential at this time. It seems obvious that the financial gurus controlling world finances are extreemly concerned at the possiblity of a global financial meltdown, and are probably priming politicians into thinking of a fresh "Bretton Wood's " conference to reorganise the world's finances along lines that will favour them. We are obliged to ensure that our approach to financial stability is kept in the forefront of such possible reforms specifically to ensure that everyone on the planet benefits by monetary reform and not a favoured few.
           Bill McGunnigle
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Subject: [socialcredit] Back up Gordon Brown for such reforms

Hi there!
I suggest that what we need is to back up and thus encourage Gordon Brown for such reforms to materialise.
More peoples  to supporting Gordon Brown's statements at WEF would be the better for ramifications. We can use his own words for such reforms.
I have my own fear but I hope Gordon Brown would not retract for such open statements for such reforms of the international financial system targetting the WB.
We have to be solution-minded with persistence to convince Prime Minister Gordon Brown to on for such reforms. Let us strike whilst the iron is hot. And for this reasons,  I also  therefore invite others, anyone of you  to send an email to Prime Minister Gordon Brown about the matters. Let us try and try to test the water. If Gordon Brown is sincere enough, then he would help monetary reformers and Social Crediters to authentically reform the money system before he could realistically suggest TO REFORM THE WORLD BANK. Reform first the money system before we can reform the WB and the IMF.
Annual World Economic Forum alone could not effect for authentic change, but this is the work of whole humanity to reform the financial system, i.e. the voice of humanity that matters, not just the opinions of the world leaders.
The statement of Gordon Brown whether or not it was just a kind of personal opinion or from his personal conviction or possibly a remose of conscience, could be a key to be repeatedly addressed to world political and economic or monetary leaders. I also believe that world leaders are aware that there is something structurally flawed in the financial-economic system. In the case of Gordon Brown, he might have felt some remorse of that the system of economic and finance we are in. He is concerned to humanity, to poor nations and inhabitants and to climate change and he is aware that humanity at large is entrapped by the wrong system and operations. He would like to adjust the system that is to be attuned to the problems of today.
And I think the reform of the money system must begin in reality in the UK, then to be followed by USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, European Union countries, third world nations and the rest of the world.
As for me, I am inclined to continue to keep the words of Gordon Brown whether he would retract or not in the future. His statements in front of world leaders remained strong to ripple for change, per se, world monetary reform.
Eric V. Encina
Roxas City, Capiz,

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Thanks for your comments which I take note. I am waiting any reply Social Crediters in the UK on their reaction or comments or rejoinder regarding the matter.
  Mr. Brown's statements  are very  encouraging. However, I believe we must understand and  realise that politicians are simply not in the strong  position to make the changes Mr. Brown calls for,  because the free-movement of capital is a phenomenon which is already well beyond the control of institutions such as the World Bank and the IMF. Now if we can provide some sort of proposals to make it possible then, we can pressure that monetary reform must begin in the UK.
There must also be  some form of global and simultaneous action that  is likely to be capable of bringing in substantive change and real reform of the system.  But that, in turn, is only likely to happen if we, citizens are educated and zealous, and thus  use tools such as global monetary reform campaigns or Social Credit Global Educatioon  to DRIVE our politicians and government leaders and pressure the ECONOMISTS AND THE BANKERS EVENTUALLY,  to actually take the action that Brown speaks of, or has suggested at the recent WORLD ECONOMIC FORUM at Davos, Switzerland,  but without simultaneous action and participation of those involved and if humanity would continue to be COMPLACENT AND INDIFFERENT, and or remained to be consentedly silly,   therefore humanity would remain to be incapable of delivering and implementing.
The campaign for monetary reform as a policy of Social Credit should be substantially non-political though political party is needed to obtain result. The reform of the money system is purely monetary and economics in nature however, we don't deny the role of politicians and their political parties.
My prayer is that Gordon Brown would be true to what he has uttered for such reforms. I am asking the Western-based Social Crediters, monetary reforms and of those economic and monetary justice activists and of those concerned to environment to help this matter put into something realisable before the hot iron begins to cool off.
We desperately need reform, per se, monetary reform here in the Philippines and in the third world nations. We are paying fake or bogus or odious  debts and interest from the debt-based money racketeering system. We have paid more too much. We are now pushed to the limit to the point of death of the poor inhabitants and or the exodus of Filipinos to foreign lands for survival.
FILIPINOS GOING OUT THE COUNTRY: BRAIN DRAIN caused by the present debt money system.
According to the news 2 days ago, there are expectedly 1.5 MILLION FILIPINOS leaving the country for overseas jobs or migration or immigration this 2008. Last year it was around 1.2 Million Filipinos left Philippines for other countries to survive.
There is tremendous brain drain in the Philippines. The best Filipino  professionals and good workers are now overseas where they can survive and could have dignity and quality of living. The remnants here like us are poor, struggling and seemed to be hopeless in sight under the system.
It is time to call for sweep reform as Gordon says.
Thanks and Long live!
Eric V. Encina

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