Thanks, Wally. I wouldn't disagree with any
of that. Except I also appreciate the exasperation that those
who are interested in 'practical politics' must sometimes feel with
what must seem to them like an endless, and rather fruitless, circular
"We can't have Social Credit without the 'right
But, it seems to me sometimes, we can't HAVE
that 'right philosophy' UNTIL we have Social
While Social Credit may be well described as
'practical Christianity' the problem with that was well stated in a piece
written by Bob Edwards, editor of the "Calgary Eye-Opener" newspaper, way back
in 1916. Before Social Credit came on the World scene, let alone the
"The Church (Christianity) cannot capture
cynical young men who do their reflecting from a purely worldly
standpoint. Their reason and their faith conflict. Read what Christ
says in Matthew and then turn to our rocky old world.
Christ says: "Woe unto you that are
The world says: "I'm out for the dough first, last,
Christ says: "Forgive your debtors."
The world says: " Sue them."
Christ says: " It is more blessed to give than
The world says: "If you do that you're a
sucker. Get all you can."
Christ says: "Give to him that
The world says: " Certainly, if my contribution
is written-up in the local newspapers."
Christ says: "Swear not at all."
The Judge says: "Lift up your right hand and be
Christ says: " From him that would borrow of thee
turn thou not away."
The world says: "Not without good
Christ says: " You cannot serve God and
The world says: " That is easy. God for a
couple of hours on Sunday. Mammon the rest of the week."
Christ says: "Love thy neighbour as
The world says: " Nothing doing."
Christ says: " To him that smiteth thee on one
cheek, offer him the other."
The world says: "Call the police and have him
jugged for assault and battery."
Christ says: " Whom God hath joined together let no
man put assunder."
The world says: " Why certainly we'll put you
assunder, if you've enough money for divorce proceedings, and marry you to the
lady with whom you were caught in flagrante delicto."
Christ says: " Forgive your debtors."
The world says: " Can't do business that way, I'd
And there you are. "
While Edwards was probably writing somewhat
tongue-in-cheek, he does identify part of the problem, I
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 7:42
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] What is the
actual "gap"? Addendum
Douglas described an inherent flaw in cost accountancy.
He mentioned certain figures and indicated that they were exemplary--not
precise, and not intended to be so. The deficiency of effective
purchasing-power is not a static value--but variable and dynamic. It
would realistically be expected to increase over time, however, with the
progressive displacement of labor in favor of non-human factors of production.
The calculation of such values are a task properly assigned to
technicians or people qualified in the field of statistics. I note in
these exchanges that no differentiation seems to be made between the
accumulated deficiency over successive, historical accountancy periods and the
deficiencies extant in each individual accountancy cycle. Obviously,
from a historical perspective prices are far to high because of the
incremental increases in each cycle over time. It seems strange that
some people find this to be an extravagant claim--yet seem to accept as
entirely normal that an ice-cream cone fifty years ago might have sold for
five cents whereas today it might cost three dollars. Things are not
necessarily normal just because we view them as they present themselves daily.
Obviously, enormous costs exist under the present rules of financial
accountancy because of the tremendous expenditure of effort and materials on
superfluous goods and services produced merely to make it possible to claim
past production. Such production is simply so much waste and represents
a diminution of the real standard of living. Incidentally, I might point
out that the correct spelling below is "religion", not "religeon." If
anyone can with the use of reason upstage or supersede Douglas, an empirical
engineer who dealt extensively with realities, that will be just fine--but
they should be required to demonstrate that they have read and understood his
position prior to making any such claims. A well-read student of Douglas
would know that he placed metaphysics or philosophy at the top of the social
order with policy flowing from that philosophy--and certainly never made
claims to be a "prophet." No society can survive and flourish without
some system of values which influence the behavior of it individual citizens.
Mankind cannot live in a moral, ethical or spiritual vacuum, which
all to often, unfortunately, seems to be the domain of "practical politics."
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