| Subject: | [socialcredit] Back up Gordon Brown for such reforms | | Date: | Monday, February 4, 2008 22:38:28 (-0800) | | From: | Eric Encina <ericencina @.....com>
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Hi there!
I suggest that what we need is to back up and thus encourage Gordon Brown for
such reforms to materialise.
More peoples to supporting Gordon Brown's statements at WEF would be the
better for ramifications. We can use his own words for such reforms.
I have my own fear but I hope Gordon Brown would not retract for such open
statements for such reforms of the international financial system targetting the
WB.
We have to be solution-minded with persistence to convince Prime Minister
Gordon Brown to on for such reforms. Let us strike whilst the iron is hot. And
for this reasons, I also therefore invite others, anyone of you to send an
email to Prime Minister Gordon Brown about the matters. Let us try and try to
test the water. If Gordon Brown is sincere enough, then he would help monetary
reformers and Social Crediters to authentically reform the money system before he
could realistically suggest TO REFORM THE WORLD BANK. Reform first the money
system before we can reform the WB and the IMF.
Annual World Economic Forum alone could not effect for authentic change, but
this is the work of whole humanity to reform the financial system, i.e. the voice
of humanity that matters, not just the opinions of the world leaders.
The statement of Gordon Brown whether or not it was just a kind of personal
opinion or from his personal conviction or possibly a remose of conscience, could
be a key to be repeatedly addressed to world political and economic or monetary
leaders. I also believe that world leaders are aware that there is something
structurally flawed in the financial-economic system. In the case of Gordon
Brown, he might have felt some remorse of that the system of economic and finance
we are in. He is concerned to humanity, to poor nations and inhabitants and to
climate change and he is aware that humanity at large is entrapped by the wrong
system and operations. He would like to adjust the system that is to be attuned
to the problems of today.
And I think the reform of the money system must begin in reality in the UK,
then to be followed by USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, European Union
countries, third world nations and the rest of the world.
As for me, I am inclined to continue to keep the words of Gordon Brown whether
he would retract or not in the future. His statements in front of world leaders
remained strong to ripple for change, per se, world monetary reform.
Thanks.
Eric V. Encina
Roxas City, Capiz,
Philippines
ericencina@yahoo.com
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<div>Hi there!</div> <div> </div> <div>I suggest that what we need is to back
up and thus encourage Gordon Brown for such reforms to materialise.</div>
<div> </div> <div>More peoples to supporting Gordon Brown's statements at WEF
would be the better for ramifications. We can use his own words for such reforms.
</div> <div> </div> <div>I have my own fear but I hope Gordon Brown would
not retract for such open statements for such reforms of the international
financial system targetting the WB. </div> <div> </div> <div>We have to be
solution-minded with persistence to convince Prime Minister Gordon Brown to on
for such reforms. Let us strike whilst the iron is hot. And for this reasons,
<STRONG>I also therefore invite others, anyone of you to send an email to
Prime Minister Gordon Brown about the matters. Let us try and try to test the
water. If Gordon Brown is sincere enough, then he would help monetary reformers
and Social
Crediters to authentically reform the money system before he could
realistically suggest TO REFORM THE WORLD BANK. Reform first the money system
before we can reform the WB and the IMF.</STRONG></div> <div> </div>
<div>Annual World Economic Forum alone could not effect for authentic change,
but this is the work of whole humanity to reform the financial system, i.e. the
voice of humanity that matters, not just the opinions of the world leaders.</div>
<div> </div> <div>The statement of Gordon Brown whether or not it was just a
kind of personal opinion or from his personal conviction or possibly a remose of
conscience, could be a key to be repeatedly addressed to world political and
economic or monetary leaders. I also believe that world leaders are aware that
there is something structurally flawed in the financial-economic system. In the
case of Gordon Brown, he might have felt some remorse of that the system of
economic and finance we are in. He is concerned
to humanity, to poor nations and inhabitants and to climate change and he is
aware that humanity at large is entrapped by the wrong system and operations. He
would like to adjust the system that is to be attuned to the problems of
today.</div> <div> </div> <div>And I think the reform of the money system must
begin in reality in the UK, then to be followed by USA, Canada, Australia, New
Zealand, European Union countries, third world nations and the rest of the
world.</div> <div> </div> <div>As for me, I am inclined to continue to keep the words
of Gordon Brown whether he would retract or not in the future. His statements in
front of world leaders remained strong to ripple for change, per se, world
monetary reform.</div> <div> </div> <div>Thanks.</div> <div> </div>
<div> </div> <div>Eric V. Encina</div> <div>Roxas City, Capiz,</div>
<div>Philippines</div> <div><A
href="mailto:ericencina@yahoo.com">ericencina@yahoo.com</A> </div><p>
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| Subject: | RE: [socialcredit] Gordon Brown at WEF on Reform by Eric V. Encina | | Date: | Monday, February 4, 2008 18:21:00 (-0800) | | From: | Eric Encina <ericencina @.....com>
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| In reply to: | Message 5234 (written by John G Rawson) |
John G Rawson <johngrawson@hotmail.com> wrote:
Good comments, W.
McG, but I suggest there are other dangers that could be more far-reaching even
than warfare. Present financial moves suggest that those behind the scenes will
try to avoid a major slump by methods other than that.
Our own NZ experience
shows that pseudo-socialist Labour leaders and finance ministers, because of
their own lack of understanding, tend to be completely dependent on their
departmental financial advisers.
Such "reforms" as are mooted are more likely to
continue the trend towards total world dictatorship through a single currency
controlled and created by a single non-elected bureaucracy. Which would, of
course, be very stable
indeed!
Regards.
John R.
From: wmcgunn@maxnet.co.nz
To:
socialcredit@elistas.com
Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 23:52:34 +1300
Subject: Re:
[socialcredit] Gordon Brown at WEF on Reform by Eric V. Encina
In
reply to Eric Encina The problem with Gordon Brown is that he is
a member of a political elite in the UK, namely the British parliament, that is
wedded to the present system right or wrong. Indeed it is the Bank of England (a
private organisation) that has been responsible for setting up the present
system. Threadneedle street and Wall street between them control the movement of
98% of all the world's finance. With the best will in the world I cannot
see even such an influencial person as the British Prime minister being able to
do much to alter the system. His Labour Party, the Conservative opposition Party
or the Liberal Democrat party are all financed from that system they are not
going to "Rock-the-boat". Having said that however it is heartening to see a
prominant Western politician actually suggesting that some form of monetary
reform of revision is necessary for the future well being of our planet.
I perceive a problem when types of reform are mooted because the present
controllers of International finance will be very unwilling to relinquish that
control even if it is to the total detriment of the planet. Even though they know
Gordon Brown is correct they are not going to abolish their stranglehold on world
financial distribution without a bitter fight. The worst senario would
be that
these controllers would forment International conflict up to and including a
world war to stimulate the world's economy before they would agree to a peaceful
solution to our economic woes. I don't want to be unduly pessimistic but
I believe things will need to get a whole lot worse before their hand can be
forced. The Keys to the situation lie in the developing economies of China and
India who, when combined, could singlehandedly out produce the rest of the world
put together. It would be at a horrific environmental cost. Bill
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Gordon Brown at WEF on Reform by Eric V. Encina
GORDON BROWN AT WEF ON REFORM
by Eric V.
Encina
At the World Economic Forum at Davos, Switzerland this January 2008,
British Prime Minister Gordon Brown has suggested for the revamping of
international institutions, saying that those systems and policies created
decades ago are no longer up to dealing with today's challenges.
He said that
politicians alone could not meet UN goals set in 2000 to solve the world's most
pressing problems, and so government should join efforts with the private
sectors, non-governmental organizations, faith groups and others.
Prime Minister
Gordon Brown was the featured guest at the World Economic Forum in Switzerland at
its annual meeting. He addressed some major concerns about the present world
economy as one of the main focuses at the annual gathering of world political and
economic leaders against the backdrop of a US downturn that threatens to mutate
if not addressed well into a world recession.
Gordon Brown is seemed to be a
kind of Western-based leader who is attuned to economic and political reform. And
hopefully MONETARY REFORM! He warned against over-acting, such as resorting to
"heavy-handed
regulation," despite of a "testing time for the global economy", while also
rejecting the other side of the coin - "being gripped by or paralyzed into
inaction."
REFORM:
Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "We are in a period that
if we don't reform our global institution (they) become irrelevant," making a
case for the creation of a "rapid response agency" that dispatches not only
peace-keepers to trouble spots, but police, lawyers and other experts needed to
rebuild society in "failed states". I HOPE THE REFORM HE IS TALKING ABOUT WOULD
BE FOR THE BETTER AND THE EMANCIPATION OF THE POOR INHABITANTS OF THE EARTH FROM
THE EXPLOITATIVE SYSTEM.
He said that "THE IMF AND THE WB AND THE UNITED
NATIONS WERE BUILT FOR PROBLEMS IN THE 1950'S. HE IS CALLING FOR REFORMS TO MEET
THE NEW CHALLENGES OF GLOBALIZATIONS, CLIMATE CHANGE AND RE-ESTABLISHING ORDER IN
"CONFLICT-RIDDEN STATES."
Another very good specific suggestion of Prime
Minister Brown is the TRANSFORMATION OF THE WORLD BANK OR WB into 'THE WORLD
BANK FOR THE ENVIRONMENT AND DEVELOPMENT' - an institution that would stand ready
to underwrite funds for developing countries looking to turn from carbon-based
fuels to alternative energies.
He also called for revamping the UN that
peacekeeping must be linked to stabilization , reconstruction and development to
avoid perpetuating failed-state status in developing countries driven by war and
other crises.
He said that "You cannot have a situation where you have failed
states and it takes years and years for the world community to do
anything."
Brown spoke bleaky of lack of progress in meeting a 15-year global
development plan, set in 2000 by global leaders to alleviate world poverty,
diseases and hunger then known as MILLENNIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS.
I laud Prime
Minister Brown for being a reform-minded UK official which I hope he would
consider in the future to speak
the same tone of conviction to REFORM the financial-economic system from
debt-based money creation to debt-free money creation scheme in the UK and in the
world to remedy such world problems.
What do you think?
Eric V.
Encina
Filipino Social Crediter/ Monetary Reformer
Homesite, Lawa-an, PO Box
8,
5800 Roxas City, Capiz,
Philippines
ericencina@yahoo.com
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Hello, Well, let us see further what would transpire in due
course the reform Gordon Brown has in mind. I also suspect that that reform he
has in mind is something like economically vague, and might not really related
to monetary reform. However, we try to give him the benefits of the doubt. It is
also important to find out what REFORMS or what kind of reforms Prime Minister
Gordon Brown is specifically referring to? I sent an email to Prime
Minister Gordon Brown yesterday but remained unanswered as of today. I
take note and appreciate all your messages of caution seemed to suggest to me not
to be too gullible of what this influential person is talking about on such
reforms. I hope this could be positive in sight to support the reform of
the financial system. Reform of the
money system could be either through national individual state or a global
monetary reform. However, global monetary reform is seemed to be beyond the
Social Credit Monetary Reform policy. C.D. Douglas did not write anything about
global monetary reform, however, I do believe monetary reform policy could be
adjusted and modified to circumstances without having to compromise the
philosophy of Social Credit. I am waiting Prime Minister's reply.
Thanks. Eric V. Encina
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