|Subject:||Re: [socialcredit] Re: [chdouglas] Re: I await your answerstomyquestions (was: Re: Public-spirited Banking|
|Date:||Monday, March 31, 2008 01:49:53 (+0900)|
|From:||Miguel Yasuyuki Hirota <mig @.............jp>
|In reply to:||Message 5330 (written by Per Almgren)|
Just to add another news from the US: the Berkshare started at
Great Barrington, Massachussets in Sep 2006 and now more than a million
Berkshares (equivalent to US$) are circulated at Southern Berkshire.
Visit the following URL to learn more.
Those who can understand German can learn more about Chiemgauer,
Germany at http://www.chiemgauer.info/ too.
And there'll be another interesting initiative to give loans to
small businesses to be launched soon Uruguay.
Per Almgren wrote:
> Joe Thomson skrev:
>>That sounds very much like the "LETS" scheme that was promoted quite
>>actively in our area, (Comox Valley region of BC's Vancouver Island), a
>>number of years ago. One of the bright lights behind it then was a fellow
>>by the name of Michael Linton, who subsequently ran for Mayor of Courtenay,
>>was defeated, and moved on. While it was in vogue, the idea achieved
>>enough publicity for the Seattle, Washington PBS TV station to send a film
>>crew up here and do a documentary on it.
>>Despite all the favourable publicity, it very quickly petered out, though.
>>Eventually the only participants left in it were largely those who really
>>had little or nothing anyone else would normally be interested in
>>purchasing, including their labour. Either with ''Green dollars", or
>>A few service providers, as I recall, one local optometrist was one of the
>>strongest backers, might have been able to benefit somewhat 'under the
>>table', but the vast majority of 'mainstream' businesses took a look and
>>said, "No thanks."
>>These type of schemes might stand more of a chance of success in some area
>>where poverty is more universalized, and there is way less dependence on out
>>of area providers of things like electricity, and fuel, telephone, etc.,
>>which couldn't be paid for in the alternate currency. In our own case, in
>>the business we're in, it would've been completely unworkable the way it was
>>here. And I think that was the case with most other firms who examined its
>>I believe, myself, that one of the greatest obstacles to SC progress is that
>>there has never been a clear conception of exactly just what it is we're
>>really trying to do. One that everyone can agree on. Once, (if ever!),
>>that's achieved we might be able to effectively utilize the "increment of
>>association" to far better advantage.
> There is ways to create "extra" money outside the banking system but it
> needs cooperation
> among part of the businesses in the area. You can use the ordinary money
> as a base for it. Then
> it would be easier to handle "export" and "import". Another but similar
> way is to copy the
> "Chiemgauer-money" in Germany, it is now expanding quite fast, there are
> people in 32 cities that plans to
> copy it. Yearly turnover is about 2 million Euro but it is quickly
> rising. The idea is basically the same as
> Gesell presented for more than 100 years ago, and turned out to be very
> succesful in the small town
> of Wörgl in Austria in the beginning of the thirties, before the Central
> bank managed to stop it.
> Per Almgren
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Martin Hattersley" <email@example.com>
>>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:26 AM
>>Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Re: [chdouglas] Re: I await your
>>answerstomyquestions (was: Re: Public-spirited Banking (was: Re:
>>TheAbolitionofInterest on Loans))
>>>I sympathize with your wish to find a way to "break through".
>>>I wonder whether one way is to forget about political action altogether,
>>>least for a time, and create some viable alternative currency scheme. I
>>>there's a group promoting "Calgary Dollars" (www.calgarydollars.ca) which
>>>might be worth a look. Once people understand that money doesn't have to
>>>come from bank loans, we could be on our way.
>>>Martin Hattersley, 5929-189 St.,
>>>EDMONTON AB CANADA T6M 2J1
>>>Phone & Fax: (780) 483-5442
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Joe Thomson" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>>>Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 10:38 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Re: [chdouglas] Re: I await your answers
>>>tomyquestions (was: Re: Public-spirited Banking (was: Re: The
>>>AbolitionofInterest on Loans))
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