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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Censorship through Copyright
Date:Monday, February 28, 2005  10:32:49 (-0700)
From:Jim <jschroeder @....ca>

Thanks for keeping up this fight Bill.

I was hoping you would have been able to answer my question in regards of
the quote in "Dictatorship by Taxation".  If you don't know personally, do
you know anyone who does?

I would like to find out the exact mechanics of this process.  I find it
very interesting.

Thank you,

Jim
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William B. Ryan" <w_b_ryan@yahoo.com>
To: <ownership@cog.kent.edu>; <austrianschoolofeconomics@yahoogroups.com>;
<socialcredit@elistas.com>
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2005 10:15 AM
Subject: [socialcredit] Censorship through Copyright


> Dear Sir:
>
> My understanding is that anything published earlier
> than 1923 is in the public domain, unequivocally.
> That would include anything published in «The New
> Age» prior to that year.  In as much as «Economic
> Democracy» and «Credit-Power and Democracy» were both
> serialized in «The New Age» and were published as
> books prior to 1923, the assumption is that they
> should be in the public domain.  Incidentally, «The
> New Age» under Orage has recently become available
> online for free at the Modernist Journals Project:
> http://www.modjourn.brown.edu/MJP_NA.htm
>
> Moreover, copyright does not convey to the copyright
> holder the right of censorship, but to recover and
> prevent economic loss.  I would think that the
> economic loss to the copyright holder, if indeed he
> validly does hold the copyright, is minimal regarding
> the "unauthorized" copying and distribution of books
> available only from used book outlets.
>
> Thank you for pointing out the typographical errors
> in my archived copy of «Dictatorship by Taxation».  I
> have made the corrections that you suggested, as you
> will note at
> http://www.geocities.com/socredus/dictatorship_by_taxation.txt
>
> Please be informed that I intend to post every scrap
> of Douglas material I can find to the Internet, as
> rapidly as I can, regardless of copyright challenge.
>
> I would prefer to do that with your help and
> cooperation.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> William B. Ryan
> Houston, Texas
> -
>
> Some brief comments are inserted [COMMENT] below:
>
> [snipped]
> Off list.
>
> Dear Mr. Ryan,
>
>     I note your comments below concerning 'Credit
> Power and Democracy'.  I am aware of an unauthorised
> edition which was produced in Australia and have
> drawn the matter to the attention of those
> distributing it in Australia who were given a number
> of copies.
> ----------------------
> -----------------------
> [COMMENT] The "unauthorized edition" to which you
> refer was published in Australia in 1933.  It is the
> edition that was photocopied and recently sent to me
> by a friend.  It is the only copy of that book that I
> have ever possessed.  The one copy previously
> available to me is the one I found quite by chance
> while browsing the shelves at Fondren Library, Rice
> University, that introduced me to the subject.
> Otherwise, I might never have heard of Social Credit.
>
> Its pages are literally crumbling into dust.  I
> repeat my offer to forward the photocopy to anyone
> who requests.
> -
>
> In view of the fact that they advised me that only a
> very few copies were produced I have not taken any
> further action.  I would however ask you not to
> encourage further distribution of this unauthorised
> edition.
> ----------------------
> -----------------------
> [COMMENT] I intend to exercise my right to free
> speech guaranteed to me by the Bill of Rights of the
> United States Constitution.  I intend to do my best
> to break the outrageous censorship of the Douglas
> material that is undoubtedly a significant causative
> factor in the degeneration of the movement over the
> past half-century.
> -
>
>     I note that you have put in your archives an
> inaccurate version of Dictatorship by Taxation.  In
> the third and fourth paragraphs following the heading
> 'Taxation a Tyrannical Fraud' the word 'debtors'
> appears once in each paragraph.  The word on each
> occasion should of course be 'creditors'. The word is
> correct in the original version published but then
> for many years the wrong word was used.
> ----------------------
> -----------------------
> [COMMENT] Shouldn't that tell us the "original
> version" was inaccessible and would have otherwise
> been unknown if not for the "unauthorized"
> distribution, by (I think) the Australian League of
> Rights?  It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure
> that one out.
> -
>
> The word has been corrected in the more recent
> authorised editions.  I would appreciate your
> correcting your archives.
>
>     Due to rather a lot of intermittent illness over
> the last few years I have not been able to keep up
> with all the emails appearing on your group listing.
> Should there be any particular copyright matters that
> need my attention I would appreciate it if you could
> draw it to my attention off list.
> ----------------------
> -----------------------
> [COMMENT] Yes, we need your cooperation.  I can even
> show you how publishing free editions to the Internet
> can be profitable to you, in generating interest in a
> hard bound compilation available for shelving by
> research libraries throughout the world.  Douglas is
> being discussed by historians of economic thought as
> well as students of social movements.  Several papers
> have been published recently in their journals.
> There is a demand for his material waiting to be
> filled.
>
> I await your reply.
> -
>
> I do try and glance through the emails on your list
> but am many thousand behind at present.
>
>     Kind regards.
> [snipped]
> -
>
>
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