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Subject:[socialcredit] Social credit, simple answer...Solution possible to apply..And His Justice...plus Lev. 25: 23
Date:Tuesday, April 1, 2008  20:05:34 (+0200)
From:Franois de Siebenthal <siebenthal @.....com>

More and more robots and computers will produce most of the goods. less and less human will be necessary to produ ce what is neccesary to live, the problem is how to distr ibute the money to buy all goods on the market ?


Robert A. Heinlein described a Social Credit economy in his first novel, For Us, the Living (published in 2003, but apparently written ca. 1939). (Beyond This Horizon describes a similar system, but in less detail.) T he society in the book uses a method to prevent inflation : the government makes a deal with business owners. Inste ad of increasing prices, they cut prices, and the governm ent (or the Bank of the United States) pays them the diff erence after seeing their sales receipts. Like the guaran teed income or heritage checks, this money comes out of t he inkwell. In the future, the government no longer uses taxation to fund itself. The characters point out that pr esent "fractional reserve" law allows banks to create money (by loaning out many times more money than t hey have on hand), while in Heinlein's future society only the US government can create US currency.

Robert Anton Wil son proposed another form of Social Credit. His plan aimed to end wage slavery, and began by offering a reward to any worker who desi gned him-or-herself out of a job. The guaranteed income ( or, in the Schrödinger's Cat Trilogy, a lesser rewar d to all other workers who "lose" their jobs to innovation) would prevent starvation. This income would consist of "trade aids" which would lose numeri cal value with the passage of time. This official reducti on in value would encourage spending and (although Wilson does not state this explicitly) limit price inflation. E lsewhere, Wilson attributed this strategy to Silvio Gesell, who also suggested the government encourage small communities to experiment with alternate economic models. If one of these enclaves seemed especially successful, the country could copy the ir model in place of Gesell's own plan.

How to apply now Social Credit locally

A simple system to exchang e goods and services
How you can open an interest-fr ee bank
with the use of simple cards

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In an age where the use of the microchip and the fall of the US $ are becomin g real threats, this is certainly a way in which one could exchange goods and services without hav ing to bow down to the use of this microchip and centralism.

A simple bank

I will now just to teach you how < span name="st">to open a local bank using Social Credit principl es. It is very easy to do and ever yone can do it.

Already in past history, small, local banks in Switzerland were established by farmers. The banker is a farmer, t he bank is in a farm house, the customers are far mers, and the owners of the bank were and are farmers. These little banks, put together in Switzerland, ma ke up the third largest Swiss bank actually in op eration with the best ratio and the best manageme nt because the costs are very low. These little b anks can also be found in Austria and some other countrie s.

The tragedy of debt money

You know that money is created in the form of debts with interest rates, and yo u know that the theory of Social Cre dit is true, and that interest kill s and put all the stress, all the psychological p roblems, suicides, alcoholism, drugs, children at home wi thout the parents because the father and the moth er are both working.

Now, with our system, you can im agine that a system without interest rates will s ave a lot of money. It will save at least three hours eve ry day for each one of you, it will cut the price s by half, and it will give the houses 77% more s pace because the interest rates are taking a lot of productivity in the whole world.

Where to start

Social < span name="st">Credit is the answer to the real needs, the basic needs of the se poor countries. After having listened to the people, we tell them that w e have something that can help them. It is not a magic wa nd that will give them paradise on earth, but it is a system that will guarantee each individual a n access to the basic necessities of life and allow the poorest countries to make use of their resources to help their own population.

The main t hing is to look for the Kingdom of Christ and His justice: & quot;But seek first the Kingdom of God and His ri ghteousness, and all these things will be given y ou besides." (Matthew 6:33.) This is really what we are doing here with this local exchang e system; we are dealing with justice, the justic e of God. Work for justice, and everything else w ill follow!

A Ch ristian coin

< p style="text-indent: 30px; margin-right: 10px; margin-to p: 12px; margin-bottom: 6px;" align="justify">I would like to show the 5-franc coin that is currently in circulation in Switzerland. (See picture above.< /i>) On one side, one can see the Swiss cross, wh ich represents the Kingdom of Christ, and on the other si de, social justice is represented by William Tell, the Swiss national hero and liberator of the poor and of t he oppressed. On the edge, one can read these Lat in words: "Dominus providebit — God will provide", which specifically refers to the verse of the Gospel of Matthew mentioned above.

In all our meetings to o rganize local interest-free banks, we need to remind people that God does provide, that He is indeed very generous. In the Philippin es, for example, they can raise three crops of corn. If y ou take one seed of corn, this seed will give you three stalks which will give you around 200 seed s. So if one gives you 200, then ten gives you 2, 000; one hundred then gives you 20,000. Three crops per y ear (20,000 X 3) yields 60,000%. And the banker w ill probably give you 6%. This means that God is indeed generous.

< p style="text-indent: 30px; margin-right: 10px; margin-to p: 0pt; margin-bottom: 6px;" align="justify">There are fish in the sea you can fish. With the earth, you can till, and the earth is very generous. You know t hat the earth could feed many times the world' ;s population. It is not a problem of food but a problem of distribution. Then it is important to remember how the ea rth is generous and that there is enough room for everybody on this earth.

In Switzerland, as I told you, this system of small banks i s working. There is also another system in place: a parallel money called "wir", the Ger man noun signifying "we" in English. see www.wir.ch This i nvolves a notion of community. This money has bee in existence since the 1933, created during the crisis, and it is working very well. It is parallel money . Few know about this money. Switzerland, the poo rest country in the world as far as natural resou rces are concerned, is one of the richest countri es in the world because of its organization of small bank s and this kind of parallel money.< /p>

Usury is condemned by the Church

You know too that the Church, the Catholic Church, has always condemned the cha rging of interest on the loan of money, calling it usury. As a matter of fact, the social doctrine of the Church, whi ch supplies principles of justice to be applied in human activities, is probably, a mongst all the teachings of the Church, the part that is the least known. And the least known part of this social doctrine, the best kept secret, is certainly the encyclical letter Vix Pervenit, issued in 1745 by Pope Bene dict XIV, and addressed to the Bishops of Italy, about contracts, and in which usur y, or money-lending at interest, is clearly conde mned. In 1836, Pope Gregory XVI extended this enc yclical to the whole Church. The t ext of this encyclical was destroyed in many coun tries of the world just to hide this most well-kept secret of the < span name="st">social doctrine of the Churc h. see www.pervenit.com

What you need to start a bank

The principle is the same as in the tale of " The Money Myth Exploded": an account is created for each member of the commun ity

To es tablish a local debt-free bank is very easy. You just nee d small sheets of paper or small booklets, which we will call the accounts, and a general ledger. In fact, we will do exactly like the five people in the tale of Salvation Island (The Money Myth Exploded), who realized they can creat e their own money. (See n< /span>. 17.)

The following system will therefore allow any community or village to make financially possible what is physi cally possible in that community, that is to say, to create as much money as they need to exch ange goods and services. Just like in the tale of "The Money Myth", you can first use a blackboard and a chalk to explain the system to the people g athered in front of you, who wish to be part of this local bank and exchange system .

Then you distribut e to each member of the community a small card, which will be their bank account. ( See Figure 1, a bl ank card.) You can use any bookkeeping card, small enough so it can be put in your pocket, in your purse. This will be the money and, at the sa me time, the way to create local m oney without interest. It is very important to state: without interest!

Figure 1 — Blank card

You can write on the ca rd some basic personal information: your name, yo ur address, your card number (which is the same a s your bank account number), your birth date and signatur e. The signature proves that you are the owner of this card; even if you lose it, nobody else can use it, for as you will see later, your signature is required on the cards — yours and that of the perso n with whom you are exchanging goods or services — every time you make a transaction.

The first thing to do af ter these cards are distributed is to give numbers to the pe ople. That means that everyone that is in the room should be allocated a number, one after the other. The first row can have the number 1, 2, 3, and so on. Everyone says the next number in sequence and ev eryone writes his number on his card. One person in charg e of the ledger for the community writes all the names in the ledger with the corresponding accoun t number. This will be your bank account number. It is like a football team — you give a number to everyone, and this number match es the name on the card.

Depending of the level of development in the community, you c an add your phone number and e-mail address, if a pplicable. You can also mention your trade (prese nt occupation) and other jobs you could do or services yo u could offer. This information can be used if on e wants to create a catalo gue of all the goods and services offered in the communit y. On the back of the card, there is the address and phone number of the local bank.

Now, in the other column s, you have the date, the reason of the transaction, a column to show the money you spend (money out of your account), the account n umber and signature of the person with whom you are transacting, and a column for the money coming in to you. You can see that this is very simple.

An illustration

Now to understand better how it works, we have an example you can look at. (Figure 2, Tom Smith's c ard.) The first amount written down on your ca rd will be an effective implementation of Social Credit: a social dividend, given periodically (once a month) to every member of the community, representing their common heritage in the wealth of the community (progress, life in society, natural resources). This amount is to be determined by the community, and must cover the basic necessities o f life. So, on the first line, you see a date, th e reason (a dividend), nothing in the money-out c olumn (you draw a line; it is money that you rece ive, not money that you spend), the number and signature of the person giving you that money (in this case , the signature of the local bank or its director , and for the sake of the example, the number &qu ot;0" was allocated to the ba nk.) And on the last column, money in, $100 is in scribed. The bank has given you a dividend of $100. This transaction has also been inscribed in the ledger of the bank.

Now on the second line, let us suppose that Tom Smith wants to buy from Paul Jo nes 50 kilos of apples, for a cost of $50. So you have th e date of the transaction, the reason (purchase o f apples), the amount you spent ($50), the number and signature of Paul Jones who sold you the apples (Paul Jones, for the sake of this example, was alloca ted account number 2.) Paul Jones signs his name on your card, and you sign your name on his card.

F igure 3 — Paul Jones' card

Every transaction always involves two cards, therefore two signatures. So, a purchase for you on your card, will be a sale for the other person involved in the transaction on the other card. If you look at Paul Jones' card ( Figure 3), the reason of the transaction will be "sa le of 50 kilos of apples"), and the $50 will be written in the column of the money-in, not th e money-out. And Tom Smith's signature will appear at the end of the line.

Now, let us suppose Paul Jones has a chair that needs to be fixed. He k nows that Tom Smith is a carpenter. He goes to see him, and Tom Smith agrees to do the job for $10. So you wi ll have on both cards the reason of the transacti on (chair fixed), with the amount ($10) written on each c ard — as money that comes in, on one card, and money that comes out, on the other. And the examp les could go on and on.

 This system is presented to the people for the first time< /span> during the meeting for the founda tion of the local bank. The best thing for you no w is to train yourself with such a card. When the cards are distributed, you put yo ur name on the card — you do not need t o put all the other details. And you make transactions with your neighbours. You buy and yo u sell. And you will see that you have now in your hand the same money-creation system that the banks have ; they do the same in computers and ledger books in accounts in banks, but it is without interest that you do your transactions.

Now train yourself for a while with your neighbours on how to create local money. This peri od is very important, and you will need t o give at least 30 minutes for this training perio d, until everyone in the room has understood. It is very important! In the Philippines, the young people went to the old people to teach them, some of them not even b eing able to read or write . But they were able to understand the system because it is only figures. Even if t hey do not know how to write letters, they know how to write numbers.

You have a contract every tim e you create money. You have, at the same time, t he proof of a contract, a commitment with the signature, and the number to double c heck the signature.

You are in control

And yo u control the system. Money creation is under your contro l and under that of your local community. You kno w each other and you can create as much money as it is necessary for your needs. So what is physic ally possible is now financially possible. Your community will never lack money.

This system you have now use d is the same system that the banks use t o create money, but you control it! And yo u control it without interest! It is very cheap. It is efficient. You can create any amount of money according to the available prod uction and services. You can exchange any number or kind of goods and services. And you are in control. Yo u own the money-creation system.

And it is even better than a bank note b ecause you have your name on it. If you lose your card, someone will phone you telling you he foun d your money. And this person who finds your money can do nothing with your money because your signature i s needed. It is really your money.

You cannot dispossess s omeone who has lost his money. If the money (the card) is destroyed by fire or other means, you can recons truct a card using information from other cards. All cards are consolidated in the local bank ledg er. This means that if your bank card is destroyed, you can reconstruct your bank card with the accounts o f the others because the other cards have your ca rd number for every operation they did with you. You can rebuild your accounting books and reclaim your as sets; an even better method than the actual syste m with bank notes. And you have, naturally, no in terest. This means every transaction will be cheaper in the community because, today, interest rates kill people.

To own a bank

But to be the owner o f a bank, this bank needs to have a management. This banks needs to have auditors. Then we now need to have people who are willing and ready to act as managers, and will ing and ready to act as auditors. So now I ask you, who will volunteer to act as managers of the bank and auditors of the bank? I need at least three managers (a dire ctor, a secretary, and a treasurer) and two audit ors (who verify once in a while the bookkeeping of the bank). Now, those who are willing < span name="st">to be and to act as the management of this local bank owned b y the local community, please come in front of the room.& quot;

It is the community that chooses the people who will be on the board of the bank, people they can trust and who have enough skills to do t he job.

To< /span> be the bank manager of the local bank is v ery easy: your only task is to be in charge of the bank ledger and the local creati on of money. 

The prices

t is now important t o put in writing equitable prices for basi c goods and services of the area. This is to be decided by the general assembly. It is also extremely important to pu t in writing how the profi ts will be divided within the community, because this bank can create money as any other bank and will cre ate money to allocate inve stments for the production of goods. Thus the people, whe n they have a lot of pluses (money in) on their c ards, can invest those pluses in projects, and th ose projects will give more abundant production. So it must be put in writing how t he profits of this abundance will be distributed. This way, the people will be more eager to share.

When there is no usury, the producers are very happy because, in those countries, usury can clim b up to 1,000% per year. That make s 20% a week. And because we now have a local ban king system without usury, without interest rates , everybody is happy, and everybody can share more. Now all this money will not go to the usurer who was doing nothing except taking 1,000% per year.

It is the love of money that is the root of all evil, and with this system, there is less the notion of money being in your pocket. This way, you love your money less because it is really just a mean s to facilitate exchanges. You can exchange any goods, any services. You ca nnot as easily love a paper which is really just your han dwriting and the signatures of the others. It is not as easy to love this piece of paper as bullion of gold or coins or bank notes. It is really a way to avoi d this love of money which is the root of all evil s.

A ruler to create money < /span>

This card, this system also gives you the r uler to create money. Just as you have a ruler to measure me ters or feet, you have a ruler now to create the money necessary for local communit y life. With this system, you can allocate money for the basic needs of the poorest. The dividend has to be accepted by the general assembly. Normally we recommend giving a dividend at least equal to the amount nece ssary to cover the basic needs for the life of the poorest, the sick, the old peopl e present.

Spread t he news

< p style="text-indent: 30px; margin-right: 10px; margin-to p: 0pt; margin-bottom: 6px;" align="justify">We are looking for people to go all over the wor ld to spread this good new s. This good news makes the poorer richer. This also make s local development possible. This too allows the poor to have as much money as they need for the physical needs of the local commun ity. It is really a tool for liberation
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And His Justice needs the s pirit of all 5 Jubilees, all 7 days, 7 months, 7  we eks, 7 years and  all 7x7 years, ...

plus see Lev. 25: 23 and 


Longer ar ticle was published in the June-July, 2005 issue of " ;Michael".



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If concep ts are not right, the words are wrong,
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Subprime crisis,  a systemic c risis : how to reform the whole system before a massive f ailure ?


Is really more centralizatio n and more power to less people earning more millions $ a t the expanse of more and more poors the solution ?
What are the roots of the problems ?

Do you find good that a few individuals can earn salaries above US $ one billion per year…( sic, with all bonuses, incentiv es, stock options…), one hundred million, 20 millions a nd so on, when others are dying of hunger ?

While large financial assets are growing exponentially and in a continuous manner, debts will increase even much more. It is the responsibility of the working population to gen erate interest and accumulated interest. This creation ta kes place directly in purchases - Helmut Creutz, estimate s that 40% of the price of consumer goods, at least, are now hidden interests - and in the form of taxes.

Even central and local government must provide debt service continuously p aying interest and accumulated interest. This development requires an exponential growth of the economy and consta ntly leads to new crises.

One author, Hermann Ken del from Berlin, describes in detail the propensity to th e crisis and the various attempts to moderate. In doing s o, he mentioned other consequences of the system of accum ulated interest, including the ongoing crisis in the Thir d World and ecological disaster.

We must work sev eral hours every day to cope with those hidden costs, we have houses 77 % more expansive or smaller, food is twice the price, everything costs too much. 99,9999999 % of th e population has to pay those crazy bonuses in New-York t o the happy few shylocks…

The US $ has now a va lue of only 1 swiss franc, from four francs ( 4,47) in 19 48, and it will continue to go down. Small is beautiful a nd Switzerland is very decentralized, we have even the wi r system, a private money system. see www.wir.ch

What are they offering ? what "solutions" in one year ti me ?

Remember, the FED is a private organization, created just before Christmas 1913, the 23th December ( m ost politicians were already gone to buy presents for the ir families...), to pass discretly a law to rackett the p oorer, at a very high cost, human lifes, wars, revolution s, terrorism.

They create the roots of most trou bles.
 
All the economy is based on loans wi th interests. Created by a few happy at the cost of more and more poors who are d ying.

What are the costs of such a system ? Alcool, drug, psy, depressions, cancers, divorces, abo rtions, wars, crisis, unemployment...


The main points of the Bush administration's plan to change f inancial regulation is more centralization and higher cos ts to the poorer:
— Expand the role of the Presiden t's Working Group on Financial Markets to include the entire financial sector and not just financial markets. BIG BROTHER WILL WATCH YOU…
— Create a  new f ederal commission at very high costs, the Mortgage Origin ation Commission, to develop uniform, minimum licensing s tandards for mortgage market participants.
— Move t he Office of Thrift Supervision, which regulates thrift i nstitutions to the Office of the Comptroller of the Curre ncy, which regulates banks.
— Merge the functions of the Commodity Futures Trading Commission into the Securi ties and Exchange Commission to create one new  agen cy to provide unified oversight of the futures and securi ties industries at very high centralized costs.
— E stablish an Office of National Insurance within the Treas ury Department to regulate those in the insurance industr y who want to operate under an new optional federal chart er, to make more paperwork.
— Divide and conquer cen trally. Work to establish as a long-term goal three major regulators: the Federal Reserve as a "market stabil ity regulator"; a "prudential financial regulat or" to take over the functions of five separate bank ing regulators; and a "business conduct regulator&qu ot; to regulate business conduct and consumer protection.

Solutions:

We need urgently to put a real and true sytem close to the people. We need to recover o ur responsabilities. The only way is local systems, easy to understand and to control. Act now, join and improve a ll local initiatives, be the salt of the earth.

< p style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 12px;" align="le ft">How to apply Social Credit locally. François de Siebenthal


We need urgently the revival of the encyclical Vix pervenit to fight against all forms of usury and put Christ in the center of the ec onomy. France has offered a Statue of the Liberty. We lau nch a general auction to offer a statue of the Responsabi lity to USA, to be built at ground zero for instance.

Kennedy was killed by crooks because he was trying t o implement globally this new economy with his order 1111 0.

Abraham Lincoln and John F. Kennedy. Mel vin Sickler


We all need God to hel p us at a family and local level and we need to accept al l five sabbats.

Lev. 2 5: 23
כג וְהָאָרֶץ, לֹא תִמָּכֵר לִצְמִתֻת--כִּי-לִי, ה אָרֶץ: כִּי-גֵרִים וְתוֹשָׁבִי ם אַתֶּם, עִמָּדִי. 23 And the land shall not be sold in perpetuity; for the land is Mine; for ye are strangers and settlers with Me.


1 Timothy 6:10

King James Bible

< font size="4">For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while s ome coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pi erced themselves through with many sorrows.

< br>More on:

http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~roehrigw/creutz/gel dsyndrom/english/index.html

http://userpage.fu-berlin.de/~roehrigw/kennedy/e nglish/


    * http://www.r einventingmoney.com
    * Margrit Kennedy: Why Do We Need Monetary Innovation? (pdf, 20 Sei ten)
    * Helmut Creutz: The Money Sy ndrome
    * 2000: Werner Onken: A Mark et Economy without Capitalism
    * 20 00: Eiichi Morino: A Story of Robinson Crusoe (by Silvio Gesell) as a Manga
    * 1998: Jürgen Probst: Aberrations of an interest-based economy
  ;   * 1995: Erhard Glötzl: The How and Why of a New Monetary System
    * 1995: Mar grit Kennedy: Interest and Inflation Free Money
     * 1990: Dieter Suhr: The Neutral Money Netwo rk
    * 1941: Vincent C. Vickers: Econ omic Tribulation
    * 1934: Michael Un terguggenberger: The End Results of The Woergl Experiment
    * 1933: Irving Fisher: Stamp Scr ip
    * 1920 (?): Silvio Gesell: Natur al Economic Order (Link http://www.systemfehler.de/en/& nbsp; )


"Another kind of terrorism: the unjust economic system". Archbishop Concessao

An example of banking philosophy. Louis Even

In Argentina, 50 child ren die of hunger every day. Th. Tardif

It is urgent to put an end to the scandal of poverty. Alain Pilote

The interest kills children, kills nations. F. de Siebenthal

The banking syste m: "An impassable barrier", said Cardinal Agre of Ivory Coast

Full sto res, empty wallets in Madagascar!. M. Lefebvre< /p>

Social Credit

The Money My th Exploded. Louis Even

Socia l Credit puts money in its proper place. Louis Even

Money, an instrument of distribution. Louis Even

To s olve the problem of poverty. Louis Even

In This Age of Plenty. Louis Even (book with 52 chapters)

A Sound and Effective Financial System. Louis Even (booklet)

What do we mea n by real Social Credit? Louis Even (booklet )

Social Credit, for a healt hy economy. Louis Even

A few questions and principles on Social Credi t. Louis Even

It's time people knew the money trick. Colin Barclay-Smith

What can economic science do t o get Social Credit applied? Diane Boucher

The Government Must Create Its Own Money. Alain Pilote

The Government does not create money. Louis Even

The pen that rules the world . Louis Even

For a Better Und erstanding of Social Credit. Alain Pilote

The Environment — Where Money Is Concerned. A. Pilote

Socia l Credit, a scientific technique of finance. Gilber te Côté-Mercier

Social Credi t: humanism and common sense. Gilberte Côté-Merci er

About Clifford Hugh D ouglas, the genius who discovered Social Credit. Louis Ev en

Social Credit: not&nb sp; Socialism, not a political party. A. Pilote

Our economic liberation through So cial Credit. Louis Even

Canada is rich in real wealth, the Canadians are poor. Gilberte Côté-Mercier

Restore to the people the control of their own wea lth. Louis Even

A civilizatio n of men financially free. Louis Even

What should be corrected! Louis Eve n

As the people build, the pe ople get into debt. Louis Even

Unemployment, a condemnation of the financial system. Louis Even

Social Cr edit and labour problems. Louis Even

The young people want a new financial system. Louis Marie Roy

To make financially possible what is physically possible. Louis Even

A brie f outline of Social Credit. Vic Bridger

How to apply Social Credit loca lly. François de Siebenthal



Please see annexes. Thank you.

Avec mes meilleures salutat ions.
François de Siebenthal

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La femme est, comme toujours, l'avenir de l'homme...:-)
The women is , as always,  the future of Man.
 
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Présent :
La femme est, comme toujours, l'avenir de l' ;homme...:-)
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