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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Definition of usury.
Date:Sunday, June 29, 2008  21:29:56 (+0200)
From:Per Almgren <almgren_per @.....com>
In reply to:Message 5429 (written by Joe Thomson)

Joe Thomson skrev:
> (Martin wrote, quoting  from R H Tawney's "Religion and the Rise of
> Capitalism" :-)  "What remained to the end unlawful was that which appears
> in modern
> economics textbooks as 'pure interest' - interest as a fixed payment
> stipulated in advance for a loan of money or wares without risk to the
> lender.... The essence or usury was that it was certain, and that whether
> the borrower gained or lost, the usurer took his pound of flesh."
>
> -------------------------------------------------
> (Joe asks:- )  Wouldn't  the money the Banks now PAY their depositors as
> interest on their deposits meet Tawney's description of "pure interest" and
> be the "essence of usury"  by his definition?
>
> On a typical term deposit the interest is certain regardless of whether the
> Bank is gaining or losing in its business activities.   It's a fixed payment
> stipulated in advance.   And since there is now Deposit Insurance coverage
> to stipulated amounts per deposit,   by staying within those limits per
> deposit
>  there is virtually no risk to the 'creditor', (depositor ~ if Bank deposits
> are not 'bailments' in law but are classed as 'debts' of the Banks instead,
> as was discussed on here some time ago).
>
> So are we all committing some "unlawful" sin by RECEIVING  "usury" on our
> deposits?
>
>   
Not all of us. Some of us has put our money into interst-free accounts.  :-}
Per Almgren

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