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Subject:[socialcredit] Re: in continuing reply to Jim Schroeder
Date:Sunday, March 6, 2005  12:06:59 (-0800)
From:william_b_ryan <william_b_ryan @.....com>

Referencing
http://www.elistas.com/list/socialcredit/archive/index/561/msg/588/
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[SCHROEDER] The simple point of A+B is that the loan 
which originates with some capital good is cancelled 
before the cost is ever completely cancelled in the 
consumer good.  Like you state, the average "flux-
reflux" rate is 3 weeks, yet some capital, like a 
building, is depreciated over 30 years.  That is the 
crux of A+B, and it has nothing to do with "labour 
displacement".
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[REPLY] Then you put yourself in direct opposition to 
Douglas, who emphasized labor displacement in almost 
every expression of the theorem.  I will send you a 
copy of his «Credit-Power and Democracy» in PDF 
format if you do not have it.  In chapter II he 
prefaces the theorem with a discussion of the 
changing ratio of Atlas' lever.  Then closes with 
this statement:

"At the moment the point to be borne in mind is that 
B is the financial representation of the lever of 
capital, and is constantly increasing in comparison 
with A..."
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[SCHROEDER] I reject the debt virus theory outright.
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[REPLY] You reject the term rhetorically but not the 
essence.  You deny Douglas' labor displacement 
hypothesis and substitute an alternate hypothesis, 
that the higher the rate of interest the greater is 
the gap between prices and purchasing power.  
Presumably, at a zero rate of interest there would be 
no gap.  Douglas' hypothesis is correct.  Yours is 
pure fallacy.

Schroeder: "My point was that increasing interest 
rates can cause consumer debt to be cancelled (i.e. 
the principal cancelled) at a faster rate."

Yes, your point, not Douglas' point.
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