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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] Finance: Credit "Crisis" and "Depression"
Date:Saturday, November 29, 2008  17:21:22 (+1100)
From:Graeme Taylor <telergy @.......com>
In reply to:Message 5724 (written by John G Rawson)

Hi Joe, John 'n all
 
I wish to clarify some political philosophy terms.
 
My understanding of Marx (and I agree he didn't analyse the monetary architecture) is his hypothesis, to wit
 
When capital and labour and organised, so as to create a profit, there is an imbalance because the profit all goes to one side, the owners of the capital, whereas he felt that after wages and costs had been paid out, the profit should then go 50/50. Half to capital, half to labour.
 
 
Because of this percieved bias he saw in industrial organisation, Karl postulated that this would lead to ever increasing wealth to the owners, and impoverishment to labour. He studied early industrialisation in Britain, and saw the parallels to the lord/serf dichotomy.
 
Karl also postulated that such industrialisation would lead to an inevitable revolution by the 'ripped off' workers, who would seize the means of production from the owners, in a peoples' revolution(socialism).
 
Then says Karl, the state dissolves into localised communities, where, from each according to their ability, to each according to their need, manifests(communism).
 
He gave no timeframe, just a dialectical analysis from his observations of the arrangements of early industrialisation.
That some countries have tried to impose state socialism onto feudal agrarian populations is not Karl's fault, imo.
Industrialised countries introduced pension funds, to ostensibly offer some profits back to workers, post their working life.
It is interesting that Marx never studied "money", and maybe just took it as a"given". I'm open to stand corrected on that.
 
As Ghandi said when asked about Modern Western Democracies, "I'd like to see one".
I'm like that about socialism and socialist parties, sometime henceforth, one may occur.
 
 
cheers
Graeme Taylor
 
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