Thanks Alan.
The concept appeals strongly, so the following points from our NZ experience are to outline the problem, not to decry the effort.
First, in general, we must assume that those involved will have worked out a united stance on exactly what they want to do. In detail. This is imperative, because our opponents are expert in seeding distrust and activists in any group fight most fiercely with those who only differ from them by a whisker. This human frailty has been shown strongly among the socialist movements as well as the monetary reform ones.
1. It can be achieved only by going party political. The apolitical approach gained some success in NZ in the 30's, only to be ratted on as other factions gained strength. Nowhere in the world has an apolitical stance gained any strength worth recording. And yes, it does entail the risk of corruption creeping in with strength. (Move quickly to head that off.)
2. With a backlog of interest in reform from the slump, the Party in NZ gained strength to a peak where, 25 years later, a survey gave it 31% support. Without preferential voting then, the ensuing election resulted in only 2 seats, and from that point support waned until now it is a very faint star on the political horizon. In other words, organise well beforehand, take every opportunity and strike hard to achieve results the first time.
3. Not only will there be difficulty getting any material through the main media, but there will be every effort to decry the move, write the participants off as weirdos, try to make the populace feel a little bit primitive and ashamed in any centre of support and to generally write it down and ridicule it. There will be no debate on principles. There will be standard accusations of anti-semitism which some idiot activist will encourage by taking the bait this offers. (Or an infiltrator put there to do it.)
4. Whereas the opposition will have massive financial support, ours will be from personal donations, raffles, little old ladies running cake and vegie stalls, or even perhaps running something like "Bingo". We call it "Housie" here, and it's legal for organisations. Dedicated teams ran it in numerous locations and raised quite good funds. And in some places where it was strong the political effort was weak, because most effort went into fundraising. Or you might get a farmer to raise a steer you have bought and give you the proceeds when it goes to the freezing works. Or even, as one team did, you might have "working bees" to cultivate a field of potatoes and sell them. (Our then conservative Prime Minister was so impressed with this, he recorded it in his memoirs.)
5. There is a finite period for all this effort to continue, including extreme hard work campaigning combined in some extreme cases with broken families, before lack of success daunts all but the most dedicated. (Or stupid; take your pick.)
6. At our peak, probably here we had far more activists in this country than could be found world-wide now.
But to attempt it is no more daunting than us continuing the fight here on the presumption that we must break through again as people again come to be hurt by economic decay.
Without detailed knowledge, why not Venezuela?!
John R.
To: socialcredit@elistas.com
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 10:35:01 -0500
From: adavans@aol.com
Subject: Re: [socialcredit] Finance: Credit "Crisis" and "Depression"
Wally Klinck wrote:
Because Social Credit would operate in the context of a much lower price level that other nations it would place us in a position of tremendous advantage in the export market--an advantage however which we would be no longer under duress to pursue. This would provide an enormous incentive for other nations to quickly adopt the Social Credit measures. A Social Credit nation would be in a much better position to offer assistance to other nations if it were socially desired....
I wonder how far out it might be on one hand and how plausible it might be on the other to shop around for a country or any other political jurisdiction with a sufficient amount of autonomy and saturate it with a campaign for implementing Social Credit? While there is presently a small crowd of Social Credit activists perhaps with sufficient funding of a Social Credit think-tank (an expanded role for the Social Credit Secretariat perhaps?) the number of practitioners, scholars, activists and supporters will rise and the chance to get an actual pilot project for 21st. Century Social Credit could be on its way. I suggest a focus on sovereign states and suitably autonomous states, provinces and regions with populations between 3 and 12 Million and a sufficiently diverse set of industrial and service sectors.
My current favourite list of possbilities:New Zealand, Uruguay, Venezuela (say what you want about Chavez puzzling paths, Venezuelans are very open to new ideas), Denmark (grab Denmark while you can....before it enters the EuroZone!), and perhaps the Baltic states. Did I mention Uruguay already? ;)
Regards
Alan Avans
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