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Subject:RE: [socialcredit] "Viva Zapata?"
Date:Friday, January 16, 2009  21:37:10 (+0000)
From:John G Rawson <johngrawson @.......com>
In reply to:Message 5911 (written by Joe Thomson)

Hi Joe.  Despite its obvious propaganda value, probably fairly true. An excellent account of the likely result when one tries to work through "the people" instead of using constitutional means.
Once something gains momentum, somebody "strong" climbs aboard to run it.  Could be the Mongrel Mob these days.
Regards.
John R.





From: thomsonhiyu@shaw.ca
To: socialcredit@elistas.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 23:34:25 -0800
Subject: [socialcredit] "Viva Zapata?"

Have any of you ever seen the old Marlon Brando film, "Viva Zapata"?  It's been on TV here many times, but I don't know about elsewhere?   In case you're not familiar with it, it was more or less based on the life of Emiliano Zapata, a Mexican peasant that had a very large role in that country's last full scale revolution.  
 
The one which overthrew the long-time regime of their President Portfirio Diaz, in the early years of the 20th century.   And the internal conflicts that followed, as that country descended into a decade long armed conflict over who'd succeed him.  
 
Early in the movie,  a delegation of badly oppressed peasants from an impoverished region in southern Mexico, of whom Zapata is one, travel to Mexico City and are  pleading their case for land reform before Diaz.  
 
 And Diaz, in a fatherly way,  is receiving their complaints with a seemingly sympathetic ear.    And  is smoothly exercising that singular ability those in office seem to acquire of vaguely, but convincingly, promising to do 'something' while knowing full well he's going to do 'nothing'. 
 
Zapata isn't quite convinced of Diaz's sincerity, however, and being  a little more forward than his companions, he obviously irritates "el Presidente" when he isn't satisfied with platitudes and wants a more definite commitment of some actual action. 
 
Diaz curtly asks him his name, and writes it down, in a manner that indicates he knows a trouble-maker when he sees one.   
 
And the easiest way to deal with that is to remove the trouble-maker himself, not what's troubling him. 
 
Well, nothing the peasants wanted is done, conditions worsen, and the revolution finally breaks out, and Diaz is deposed. 
 
The 'political' leader of the revolution  is installed as President, is ill prepared to actually govern, and is  subsequently murdered by one of his generals.   Who takes his job, but doesn't last long either. 
 
At one point, Zapata himself assumes the Presidency, and shortly thereafter he's visted by a delegation of poor peasants pressing the same case his delegation once pressed for with Diaz. 
 
And he responds just as Diaz did, initially with platitudes, until one of this group's number also indicates his dis-satisfaction with what he's being told.  Zapata asks him his name, in the same tone of voice Diaz once used with him.  But then, as he goes to write it down, catches himself, and realizes that he's turned into the same font of oppression he fought so long against.  He chucks the Presidency, and goes home, back to what he knows. 
 
Now what does all this have to do with the advancement of Social Credit, you might ask?  Well, just this.  It's very easy to lose sight of what you're fighting to achieve unless you're constantly reminded of it.  It is said, with great truth, that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely",  and the "will-to-power" of those in government is highly addictive once attained. 
 
What is best?  A 'sanction' against the governments we have, to make them, whoever they may be composed of in personnel, do what WE specifically  want done?  Or perhaps, more initially important,  DON'T want done?   Or the attainment of  office ourselves?   Where we might just find it easier to remove the trouble-maker than correcting his troubles.
 
Regards,
Joe 
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