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Subject:Re: [socialcredit] 100 percent reserve system
Date:Friday, May 15, 2009  22:30:40 (+1200)
From:William Hugh McGunnigle <wmcgunn @.........nz>
In reply to:Message 6695 (written by John Hermann)

HI John
          The 100% reserve system would result in an instant collapse of our present financial system,and consequently finacial chaos of an unprecedented nature, unless you accept that the present system DOES actually create the money it "lends" out of thin air. TO make any system work you have to divorce the two purposes of a bank namely 1] as a depository for the thrifty to place their "savings", and 2] as an organisation that provides finance to organisations in the form of "loans or overdrafts" to keep commerce moving. The two functions are distinct and different and cannot be related together. In NZ it is illegal for any Bank to "lend out" funds placed in it on deposit as savings. Thus if any bank is placed into receivership in NZ, the first duty of the receiver is to reimburse all people who habve placed funds in that b ank as "savings". Other creditors like other banks have to wait until this is done. Unfortunately past history has confused to two functions either accidentally or deliberately I suspect the former because of insufficient understanding of how the monetary system really works. Many people still believe that banks actually "lend out" the money placed in them on deposit, a practice that has been outlawed. Nevertheless the "fractional reserve system" perpetuates this myth to the advantage of the bankers'
         BIll MCG
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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2009 2:47 PM
Subject: [socialcredit] 100 percent reserve system

At 02:07 AM 15/05/2009, William Ryan wrote:
Firstly, there is a serious question that such a system could work even in theory.


What is a 100 percent reserve system?
by William Hummel

A 100 percent reserve system is not simply a special case of the fractional reserve system.  It would dramatically transform the monetary system and the role of banks, as summarized in the following:

In a 100 percent reserve system, banks would be required to hold reserves equal to their demand deposits.  Banks could no longer create deposits out of thin air by lending, as in a fractional reserve system, because there would be no reserves backing those deposits.  The entire money supply would consist of base money – demand deposits which are proxies for central bank funds, and cash in circulation.  Bank credit money would no longer exist.  The money supply could change only as a result of open market operations or lending by the central bank. 

Banks would play two quite independent roles:  (1) depositories providing payment services to the public, and (2) profit-seeking enterprises we can call financial service companies (FSC).  In its role as an FSC, a bank could only lend what it holds on deposit itself.  Such lending would transfer ownership of funds from its own account to the borrower’s account, in the same way a non-bank FSC now lends.

Banks could acquire funds to lend by selling interest-earning securities such as money market funds.  However they would have little incentive to seek new demand deposits because such deposits offer no opportunity to create profitable investments for themselves.  In principle, banks could continue to offer CDs and savings deposits to acquire funds.  However without federal insurance coverage, those deposits would be functionally redundant with other instruments offered by FSCs, and are best eliminated.

With the depository operations of little value to banks in a 100 percent reserve system, it makes sense to consolidate all deposits into a single national depository run by the central bank.  It could be called the national bank, but should not be confused with the central bank itself, which is not a public depository and has other important functions to perform.  All deposits at the national bank would be non-earning transaction deposits which exist as entries in a single computer system.  Verifying balances and making payments could be done instantly.  Deposit insurance would be eliminated since there is no risk when all deposits are held in a national bank.

Addendum:
     
I don't think there is the slightest chance the U.S. Congress would enact the necessary legislation, considering the political power of the banking business.  But if it did, It would certainly change the landscape in the financial world.  Milton Friedman and a few other reputable economists have proposed a 100% reserve system, but I have never seen anything to suggest they understood the full implications. 
      The fractional reserve system puts enormous leverage in the hands of large banks, which is often misused.  Far too much lending now goes to support purely speculative activity in the financial markets.  That distorts the markets, inflates asset prices, increases the fragility of the banking system, and serves no useful purpose in the real economy.  The single national depository version of a 100% reserve system, which I describe in more detail in  http://wfhummel.net/nationaldepository.html, would be a definite improvement in my opinion.


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